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Must add turning ALL evidence over to state of every pedophile even before state requests it, and exempting disclosure of sexual abuse from the "rule" not allowing confession info to be repeated. Confession should not turn into aiding and/or abetting pedophilia.
Must add turning ALL evidence over to state of every pedophile even before state requests it, and exempting disclosure of sexual abuse from the "rule" not allowing confession info to be repeated. Confession should not turn into aiding and/or abetting pedophilia.
Aiding or abetting murder, kidnapping, rape, robbery, and fraud under the guise of forgiving someone's crimes seems a stretch also. Before one can approach God, they first must get forgiveness from the offended. (Matthew 5:24-26). It is all a scam, probably punishable under the RICO act. Give me your money, and I won't let the bad guys/devil bother you while you are in your living hell.
You would wonder that many abusers would actually have no fear of God , or any belief in God at all , as they did show that they have no grace of God to stop themselves from hurting others .....
You would wonder that many abusers would actually have no fear of God , or any belief in God at all , as they did show that they have no grace of God to stop themselves from hurting others .....
Seems like people of every faith are able to commit harm to others and people of all faiths and of no faith are able to commit good towards others. Don't think that all abusers are atheists or of faiths other than yours. Look towards organizations, religious or not tackling all abuses within their organization. And the vast majority of believers and non believers alike are appalled at sexual or physical abuse of children. And the vast majority of believers and non believers do not abuse children.
Seems like people of every faith are able to commit harm to others and people of all faiths and of no faith are able to commit good towards others. Don't think that all abusers are atheists or of faiths other than yours. Look towards organizations, religious or not tackling all abuses within their organization. And the vast majority of believers and non believers alike are appalled at sexual or physical abuse of children. And the vast majority of believers and non believers do not abuse children.
The vast majority of abusers are religious fundamentalists.
You would wonder that many abusers would actually have no fear of God , or any belief in God at all , as they did show that they have no grace of God to stop themselves from hurting others .....
I wish they had fear of jail, no future financial support from the Church...being shunned like Jehovah Witnesses I hear do.
He is old now...big deal...life will be a vacation now...after damaging the psyche of so many in ways we will never know.
He is one sick dude...needs help...and should make some statement of remorse to his victims.
I wish they had fear of jail, no future financial support from the Church...being shunned like Jehovah Witnesses I hear do.
He is old now...big deal...life will be a vacation now...after damaging the psyche of so many in ways we will never know.
He is one sick dude...needs help...and should make some statement of remorse to his victims.
As a Catholic, I have to say that this is the real issue. The Church shields these priests and they don't ever see jail time. Because the Church is so large and organized, they can be sent to Rome/the Vatican or countless other places around the world and be protected from ever seeing a jail cell.
If priests knew that they would be treated like any other criminal for crimes they commit, that right there would eliminate 90% of these crimes based on fear of the punishment alone. The fact that this isn't the case is puzzling. Praying for change and cleansing from within the Church!
The more I read, the more pervasive the Catholic sex scandal seems to become. Small wonder the Vatican has been so slow to do something about it. It seems to be so deeply rooted, that it will be almost impossible to entirely reform in our lifetime.
I am not an anti-Catholic. I married into a family of devout Catholics. However, if the body of all these reports are even only 25% true, I cannot fathom how it's possible to remain Catholic and support a hierarchy that knew of these evils, abetted them, covered them up, and is moving at such a glacial pace to reform--with apparent resistance within the church. It is simply mind-boggling.
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Seems like people of every faith are able to commit harm to others and people of all faiths and of no faith are able to commit good towards others. Don't think that all abusers are atheists or of faiths other than yours. Look towards organizations, religious or not tackling all abuses within their organization. And the vast majority of believers and non believers alike are appalled at sexual or physical abuse of children. And the vast majority of believers and non believers do not abuse children.
This is a variation on the rote "Everybody has these problems" argument.
Yes, I will acknowledge your point. There's not an institution on the planet, religious or otherwise, that does not have to contend with this problem to some extent.
However, what distinguishes the Catholic Church in this instance is the complicity of the entire church in covering up a staggering number of crimes. Crimes that were documented and later admitted to by the church itself.
Let me put it this way. Let's say there were two school superintendents in two identical school districts. In both districts, it comes to the attention of the superintendent that a teacher was sexually abusing one of his students.
One superintendent calls the police and the offender is carted away in handcuffs.
The other superintendent remains silent. He pays off the family. He ships the teacher off to another unsuspecting school in his district. The rest of the school administration is generally aware of the incident and also elects to say nothing to the authorities. Why? Because they are loyal to the superintendent.
Now. Do the two superintendent have moral equivalency? Of course not. Because while the first superintendent acted immediately to protect children, the second superintendent acted in a way that was absolutely immoral, allowing evil to fester and thrive for the sake of expediency. In that sense, he might as well have been holding down future victims for the sexual predator to molest.
Yet this is what the Catholic Church has been doing on an institutional basis for God knows how many years. There is literally no possible defense for its actions. The church uses the term Sin Of Omission to describe the failure to act. The church itself is guilty of a massive sin of omission in its failure to stop this evil in its tracks.
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