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Old 10-12-2008, 06:30 PM
 
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Do you think the purest form of Christianity is pre Nicaean Council (ad 325) or should God accept "Modern Additions" to Christianity?

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* The early Christians lived in or just after the apostles and Holy Spirit were directly guiding them in how to worship and conduct themselves. Because of this I feel they would have a crystal clear picture of virtually every thing relating to True Christianity.

Most additions to Christianity (such as a denominational structure, not taking the Lord's Supper weekly, celebrating religious holidays, instrumental music) were added hundreds of centuries after tongues ceased and the traditions given by the apostles were forgotten
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Old 10-12-2008, 06:47 PM
 
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Most additions to Christianity (such as a denominational structure, not taking the Lord's Supper weekly, celebrating religious holidays, instrumental music) were added hundreds of centuries after tongues ceased and the traditions given by the apostles were forgotten
I'm amazed I remembered this from Dr. Schmitt's lectures 11 years ago, but....
Actually, ALL music in the Mass/services/etc was added later. Believe it or not, we wouldn't have polyphony today if it wasn't for Palestrina who wrote the Missa Papae Marcelli (Pope Marcellus Mass). Things got WAY out of hand with polyphony back then and sponsorship for music was almost withdrawn just prior to this Mass being written. I'd have to look it up as to when music was added to the services, but that involves searching through a box of old text books. lol. Anyways, enough of the music history lesson (I'm still impressed that I retained SOMETHING after 11 years...lol!).
As for the PUREST form of Christianity...I honestly don't know and am not sure. It sort of depends on a whole slew of things.
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Old 10-12-2008, 08:52 PM
 
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Do you think the purest form of Christianity is pre Nicaean Council (ad 325) or should God accept "Modern Additions" to Christianity?

My thoughts:

* The early Christians lived in or just after the apostles and Holy Spirit were directly guiding them in how to worship and conduct themselves. Because of this I feel they would have a crystal clear picture of virtually every thing relating to True Christianity.

Most additions to Christianity (such as a denominational structure, not taking the Lord's Supper weekly, celebrating religious holidays, instrumental music) were added hundreds of centuries after tongues ceased and the traditions given by the apostles were forgotten
This verse would indicate that deception was there from the earliest days.

1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
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Old 10-12-2008, 09:10 PM
 
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I think the truest form of worship has (to some extent) been lost to "religion" which is manmade..Today it seems to be about entertainment, social gatherings, buildings, etc..
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:24 AM
 
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Is Early Christianity (pre Nicaean Council) the only True Form
"God is a Spirit, and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth".

That is the "true form".

Unfortunately this has been hampered by numerous add-ons and stuff that takes the place of the Spirit and closes the door for "worshiping in spirit", and false doctrine and sin has been accepted, closing the door and making it impossible to "worship in truth". But the encouraging thing is that just because "early Christianity" may have been worshiping in the true form, this does not mean we cannot do this also today.

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Old 10-13-2008, 10:26 AM
 
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Do you think the purest form of Christianity is pre Nicaean Council (ad 325) or should God accept "Modern Additions" to Christianity?

My thoughts:

* The early Christians lived in or just after the apostles and Holy Spirit were directly guiding them in how to worship and conduct themselves. Because of this I feel they would have a crystal clear picture of virtually every thing relating to True Christianity.

Most additions to Christianity (such as a denominational structure, not taking the Lord's Supper weekly, celebrating religious holidays, instrumental music) were added hundreds of centuries after tongues ceased and the traditions given by the apostles were forgotten
If they are "non essentials" why does it matter? and what constitutes a pure form of Christianity?
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Old 02-24-2010, 08:36 PM
 
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1 Corinthians 1:10 I urge you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree in what you say, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and in the same purpose. For it has been reported to me about you, my brothers, by Chloe's people, that there are rivalries among you. I mean that each of you are saying "I belong to Paul" or "I belong to Apollos" or "I belong to Kephas," or "I belong to Christ" Is Christ Divided?
we are all in Christ my brothers and sisters, may there be no division among us and may we all follow Jesus Christ. The name "Christian" means follower of Christ the true form of Christianity is through Christ and through Christ alone. Which church you go to or how you worship is like the style of cloths you ware or the music you listen to...the most important thing as that you truly open your heart to the Word of God and let it transform you to follow Christ
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Old 02-25-2010, 12:34 AM
 
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If they are "non essentials" why does it matter? and what constitutes a pure form of Christianity?
And who are you to decide what is essential. If something was essential to them, and not you, who's wrong?
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:43 AM
 
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Do you think the purest form of Christianity is pre Nicaean Council (ad 325) or should God accept "Modern Additions" to Christianity?
Whoah! Even in apostolic times, there were rats in the church. (Ok, dogs, or wolves, in those days.) There were legalists in the Jerusalem church, people who said that there was no resurrection, people being baptised for the dead. There's not a lot that's new!

There is only one objective standard. The 66 books.
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Old 02-25-2010, 03:21 AM
 
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The only one true form is to become one with the Father as Jesus. All else is missing the mark. What is called Christianity today has no relation to Jesus EXCEPT when selfless (agape) love is expressed though individuals.

I believe a spiritual revolution is arising which will ultimately blow the lid off the whole thing. Every hidden thing will be revealed.
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