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Old 06-13-2009, 09:57 PM
 
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......So then, you must not believe that God will accomplish whatever He wants to God bless you, ILNC.
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:05 PM
 
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......So then, you must not believe that God will accomplish whatever He wants to God bless you, ILNC.
Re-read my post and you will see I said I do.
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:06 PM
 
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Then you must believe that He reconciles all to Himself, that all will be reunited in Jesus Christ, because this is His purpose God bless.

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Amen. It was God's good pleasure to reconcile all to Himself. (Colossians 1)


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I believe He will accomplish what ever He purposes to do.

pleasure=eudodeo=to think it good, not merely an understanding of what is right and good, but stressing the willingness and freedom of an intention or resolve regarding what is good; the noun, eudokia-good pleasure implying a gracious purpose, a good object with the idea of a resolution

This is God's good pleasure, to reconcile all to Himself through Jesus Christ, and He will bring it to pass. Since He sees beginning to end, and works all things according to the counsel of His own will, it is already accomplished although we do not see it yet. God bless.


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Ephesians 19Making known to us the mystery (secret) of His will (of His plan, of His purpose). [And it is this:] In accordance with His good pleasure (His merciful intention) which He had previously purposed and set forth in [c]Him, 10[He planned] for the maturity of the times and the climax of the ages to unify all things and head them up and consummate them in Christ, [both] things in heaven and things on the earth.

Ephesians 1
9He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him
10with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him 11also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will (NAS)

summing up=anakephalaioomai=to gather together again in one, to reunite under one head as in Eph. 1:10 (Hebrew/Greek Key Word Study)
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:11 PM
 
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Then you must believe that He reconciles all to Himself, that all will be reunited in Jesus Christ, because this is His purpose God bless.
No, because the Bibles does NOT teach that everyone will be reconciled to Him, it teaches that those whose reject Him will be eternally separated from Him. He died for all, but some will reject Him.
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:18 PM
 
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I think Matt. 7:13-14 and Revelation 20:15 places this issue beyond discussion. Few find the path to heaven. Most are on the path to the lake of fire and will suffer there for eternity. Jesus' own words.
"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." (Mt 7:13-14, AV)

Concerning the straight gate He says, "Enter ye in." Concerning the wide gate He says, "Many...go in thereat. Both are an entrance into God. One is through life. The other is through destruction. It is very similar to:

1 Corinthians 3:13-15, (AV)...
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
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"And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." "Rv 20:15, AV)

"Whosoever" was used by the KJV translators for the underlying Greek here 2 times and "If" was used 73 times. It literally means: "If whether." If any whos the text doesn't say so, whether any was ever found. Beware of adding to the words of the scroll of this prophecy.

Can you recognize how often there are no actual words to quote with chapter and verse speaking of permanent evil? How can so many actual words quoted with chapter and verse concerning all and every be treated as though God lied?

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Old 06-13-2009, 10:18 PM
 
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ILNC, The scriptures teach that it was God's good pleasure to reconcile all to Himself and that He accomplishes whatever He purposes to do. People will not reject Him forever. God bless.

Ephesians 1
9He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him
10with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him 11also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will (NAS)

summing up=anakephalaioomai=to gather together again in one, to reunite under one head as in Eph. 1:10 (Hebrew/Greek Key Word Study)




I keep posting these because no one who believes in eternal hell ever responds to them. I guess they ignore them.

On words that have been translated as “eternal”, “forever”, “incurable” in the scriptures in KJV and related translations:

Sodom's fiery judgment is "eternal" (Jude
7)--until--God "will restore the fortunes of Sodom"
16:53-55).

Israel's "affliction is incurable" (Jer.
30:12)-until--the Lord "will restore health" and heal
her wounds (Jer. 30:17).

The sin of Samaria "is incurable" (Mic. 1:9)-until--
Lord "will restore ... the fortunes of Samaria." (Ez.
16:53).


An Ammonite or Moabite is forbidden to enter the
Lord's congregation "forever"-until--the tenth
generation (Deut. 23:3):

Habakkuk tells us of mountains that were
"everlasting", that is -until-- they "were shattered"
Hab. 3 3:6).

The Aaronic Priesthood was to be an "everlasting"
priesthood (Ex. 40:15), that is-until-it was
superceded by the Melchizedek Priesthood (Hebrews
7:14-18).

Many translations of the Bible inform us that God
would dwell in Solomon's Temple "forever" (1 Kings
8:13), that is,--until the Temple was destroyed.

The Law of Moses was to be an "everlasting covenant"
(Leviticus 24:8) yet we read in the New Covenant the
first was "done away" and "abolished" (2 Corinthians
3:11,13), and God "made the first old" (Hebrews 8:13).

God's waves of wrath roll over Jonah
"forever"-until--the Lord delivers him from the large
fish's belly on the third day (Jonah 2:6,10; 1: 17);

Egypt and Elam will "rise no more" (Jer.
25:27)-until--the Lord will "restore the fortunes of
Egypt" (Ez. 29:14) and "restore the fortunes of Elam"
(Jer. 49:39).

"Moab is destroyed" (Jer. 48:4, 42)-until--the Lord
"will restore the fortunes of Moab" (Jer. 48:47).

Israel's judgment lasts "forever"-until--the Spirit is
poured out and God restores it (Isa. 32:13-15).

So, narrow is the way to life and few find it-until--
and His church confiscate the "strong man's" booty,
setting the captives free so God becomes all in all
(Isa. 61, Luke 11:21-22, Matt. 7:13; 16:18, 1 Cor.
15:24-28).

The King James Bible, as well as many others, tells us
that a bondslave was to serve his master "forever"
(Exodus 21:6), that is,--until--his death.

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