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letters from apostles in the NT : written to the "faithful in Christ" ... you gotta be faithful in Christ, you gotta prove the trust and grace and gifts God gives us; you gotta love God heart mind soul strength , with all of you, not just enough to make yourself look good; OT, NT same God, same demand of complete unequivocal all-or-nothing devotion ... lots and lots of NT counsel from the Holy Spirit about God's wrath and what it means to trample the blood of Christ, but this topic doesn't rack up the dough in the collection bucket, does it ? Lots of NT amonition to make your walk worthy of the calling you have received ... God's love is all kind of things far above us, God lifts us up from death and gives us every spiritual blessing in Christ ... God's love is steadfast, he is able to take us all the way to the finish line ... God's love is NOT unconditional ... folks go to worship, sit in the pew, stand and sing and shout in the aisle, and do whatever evil they can think up Monday thru Saturday ... you think the blood of Jesus will cover those who trample on our only Salvation and treat Him as refuse , take him for granted ... " away from me you evil doers, I never knew you " ... NT ... so what do we do with such ... " unbroken " ... " unbreakable " ... Scripture ... words breathed from God ... and still hang on to this false doctrine of unconditional love ... it is a cancer in the Church today, it is not found in Scripture, it is not in God's heart. Find it in Scripture. Prove it from the Way, Truth and Life, Jesus , Anointed Savior King. Prove it, I will listen.
Nonsense! God IS love. That doesn't mean it is a "condition" where God either loves or hates like we do . . . it means God IS love and there is no room for anything else. It does not mean we will not have to reap whatever we sow. Of course we will . . . but it is not punishment from God. It just is the consequences of our own actions and will be in proportion to those actions. God's love is not a state of mind or choice of God . . . it IS God. Try to get that distinction into your head. God IS love and Love IS God. That is why everyone who loves is "Born of God" and knows God.
God loves you unconditionally!" I challenge anybody to prove that from the Bible. There is not a single verse which explicitly states that God loves mankind (or even a Christian) without conditions. Some would point to the verse that says "...while we were yet sinners God loved us" or John 3:16 which says: "For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son..." in order to demonstrate God's continuous love. However... To see the complete article go here: God's Love
So what is the point of your post? To perhaps prove God a liar, which is impossible? Or to squelch a misinterpretation of scripture? The bold areas pretty much define why Almighty God is justified as our original parent to ask certain things of us to merit his undeserved kindness. He is the creator of ALL things according to scripture. And certainly not a fool who should answer to us, his children. But he is also very humble. (2 Samuel 22:36)
And believe it or not, we are all mortal, subject to sickness, old age, and death. Yet that is not what God originally purposed. He gave the first humans the prospect of living forever in a paradise on earth. But there was one condition: They had to obey him. God said that if they chose not to, they would die. And the first man did indeed rebel against God’s authority, and he brought death upon himself and we, his offspring.—Romans 5:12. However, God loves justice. So even though he could not ignore the deliberate act of transgression on the part of the first man, God has not condemned all humanity to suffering and death forever on account of one man’s disobedience. On the contrary, by applying the legal principle of “life for life,” he has balanced the scales of justice and made everlasting life possible once again for obedient humans. (Exodus 21:23) The question is, How could Adam’s loss of perfect human life be recovered? Yes, but someone blameless needed to offer up, or sacrifice, a life of equal value to Adam’s perfect human life. That person would be the 'One' that many people insist is God himself, but he is Not. Though god-like, he is The first-born Son of Almighty God, Jesus Christ.
Nonsense! God IS love. That doesn't mean it is a "condition" where God either loves or hates like we do . . . it means God IS love and there is no room for anything else. It does not mean we will not have to reap whatever we sow. Of course we will . . . but it is not punishment from God. It just is the consequences of our own actions and will be in proportion to those actions. God's love is not a state of mind or choice of God . . . it IS God. Try to get that distinction into your head. God IS love and Love IS God. That is why everyone who loves is "Born of God" and knows God.
God loves you unconditionally!" I challenge anybody to
prove that from the Bible.
There is not a single verse which explicitly states that God
loves mankind (or even a Christian) without conditions.
Some would point to the verse that says "...while we were
yet sinners God loved us" or John 3:16 which says: "For
God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten
Son..." in order to demonstrate God's continuous love.
However, .......
No, it is not a single verse, it is the whole context of the ending of Matthew 5 43“You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy.’ 44“But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46“For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47“If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? 48“Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
There are no conditions to His love, there ARE conditions to living in a way pleasing to Him. It is amazing that people wish to limit the love of God, as if unconditional love would keep us from the consequences of our failures.
It was not given to them to repent... at that time. I ask again: If these pharisees will never escape gehenna and never enter the kingdom of God, then why did Jesus say that the publicans and sinners would be preceding them into the kingdom of God?
It helps if you read that entire message where it say "sinners will precede them, instead of pulling one sentence out of context. You'll find the answer to your question in. v. 32.
Matthew 21:
28 'What is your opinion? A man had two sons. He went and said to the first, "My boy, go and work in the vineyard today."
29 He answered, "I will not go," but afterwards thought better of it and went.
30 The man then went and said the same thing to the second who answered, "Certainly, sir," but did not go.
31 Which of the two did the father's will?' They said, 'The first.' Jesus said to them, 'In truth I tell you, tax collectors and prostitutes are making their way into the kingdom of God before you.
[b]32 For John came to you, showing the way of uprightness, but you did not believe him, and yet the tax collectors and prostitutes did. Even after seeing that, you [pharisees] refused to think better of it and believe in him.
The connotation of "believe in him" regardless of who it is - is incorrect.
It's merely that of believe him, which is the primary or explicit expression.
"This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased, listen to him."
The connotation of "believe in him" regardless of who it is - is incorrect.
It's merely that of believe him, which is the primary or explicit expression.
"This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased, listen to him."
Not bad for a fortune cookie writer .
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