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That's quite a list of expectations to take to your death, Mike. Not a big believer in having reasonable expectations, eh? Good luck with that. Personally I am assured of unconditional love and acceptance and joy (I have experienced it many times already) . . . but there has been very little else that is readily observable. I guess it will be easier to pleasantly surprise me.
Expectations??? I have no idea what you mean by that. These are things that God does for us at salvation. They are grace gifts to us for our benefit. They are assets that God has provided to us as a part of our relationship with Him as Church age believers. As members of the royal family of God. Your reaction is a mystery. Oh. I just noticed your forum ID. I thought this was the original poster. Your reaction is no mystery whatsoever.
If God controls our choices, where does the free will part come in?
On the negative side, God would then have caused someone to jump off a bridge?
Making God a sinner?
I don't follow the logic of that.
God is love, not death or suicide.
godspeed,
freedom
The free will part is that you make the choice based upon the choices you can choose from.
What is the opposite of corrupt flesh?
Does Jesus have a physical body?
Is His physical body divine?
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#1 - The opposite of corruptible flesh is incorruptible flesh.
This is the flesh we have after the resurrection.
It is still human flesh, but the body is now changed in nature so that it cant die.
Expectations??? I have no idea what you mean by that. These are things that God does for us at salvation. They are grace gifts to us for our benefit. They are assets that God has provided to us as a part of our relationship with Him as Church age believers. As members of the royal family of God. Your reaction is a mystery. Oh. I just noticed your forum ID. I thought this was the original poster. Your reaction is no mystery whatsoever.
Ah . . . the "Royal Family of God" . . . that explains a lot. You are "really special" then . . . you don't have "expectations" but "rights." It must be wonderful to be so "special." Your reaction is no mystery whatsoever.
#1 - The opposite of corruptible flesh is incorruptible flesh.
This is the flesh we have after the resurrection.
It is still human flesh, but the body is now changed in nature so that it cant die.
#2 - Yes, Jesus has a body of flesh and bone.
#3 - Jusus is 100% human..and 100% God.
Hbr 6:1 ¶ Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Hbr 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Hbr 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.
THere is a promise to to unto perfection and not need to be ressurected from the dead.
Few find it. This is true, but God provides the opportunity to those that overcome to be changed from carnal to immortal.
Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
1Cr 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal [must] put on immortality.
1Cr 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
If all things are possible, then the divine nature/immortality must be included.
Ah . . . the "Royal Family of God" . . . that explains a lot. You are "really special" then . . . you don't have "expectations" but "rights." It must be wonderful to be so "special." Your reaction is no mystery whatsoever.
Be careful with babes, original thought is a rare commodity.
Oh, it's hardly original thought. It's all right from the scriptures.
Pertaining to the fact that the Church age believer is born into royality, it is quite simple. Jesus Christ is royalty. He is, in his humanity descended from King David. Christ will sit on the throne of David during the Millennial dispensation. Since we have been placed into union with Christ through the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, that is, we are in Christ, as He is in us, that makes the Church age believer royalty. The Church is called the body of Christ. It is also called the bride of Christ. The Church will rule with Christ during the Millennium. That makes the Church age believer royalty.( Rev. 1:6)
Oh, it's hardly original thought. It's all right from the scriptures.
Pertaining to the fact that the Church age believer is born into royality, it is quite simple. Jesus Christ is royalty. He is, in his humanity descended from King David. Christ will sit on the throne of David during the Millennial dispensation. Since we have been placed into union with Christ through the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, that is, we are in Christ, as He is in us, that makes the Church age believer royalty. The Church is called the body of Christ. It is also called the bride of Christ. The Church will rule with Christ during the Millennium. That makes the Church age believer royalty.( Rev. 1:6)
Oh, it's hardly original thought. It's all right from the scriptures.
Pertaining to the fact that the Church age believer is born into royality, it is quite simple. Jesus Christ is royalty. He is, in his humanity descended from King David. Christ will sit on the throne of David during the Millennial dispensation. Since we have been placed into union with Christ through the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, that is, we are in Christ, as He is in us, that makes the Church age believer royalty. The Church is called the body of Christ. It is also called the bride of Christ. The Church will rule with Christ during the Millennium. That makes the Church age believer royalty.( Rev. 1:6)
Only if you live and keep His commandments. If we do not, there is no promise, no royalty, no throne sharing.
To presume that it is already ours, is a sure sign that it is not.
The degree of humility required is beyond the mere seeker, it is for the finders.
Of which i hope we all become some day, as I am surely not one now.
Eternal Life is for the true beliver, in that He/She lives it.
Death and ressurection is for the salvaged. Which is my name at this time.
Only if you live and keep His commandments. If we do not, there is no promise, no royalty, no throne sharing.
Regarding the 'throne sharing' as you call it, it is true that only the believer that has advanced to spiritual maturity while alive on this earth in his mortal body, will in the Millennium, in his resurrected body co-reign with Christ. But as for the rest of it, the royalty for instance, it is ours from the moment of salvation. The true believer is ANYONE who has believed in Christ for salvation. No works, no giving up anything, no trying to impress God with what a good and wonderful person you think you are, just believe that Christ died for your sins, believe in Him for salvation, and you are saved. Period. Being a disciple is something else. To pick up your cross and follow Christ means making constant decisions to put the word of God first in your life. But that has nothing to do with salvation.
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To presume that it is already ours, is a sure sign that it is not.
To presume that you can disregard what the Bible has to say about it is human arrogance. And it makes a person an enemy of the Cross.
If you don't become oriented to the grace of God, you will never understand Him or His plan for man. And you will simply wander around in spiritual ignorance of the truth. There's nothing more to be said.
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