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Old 07-30-2009, 06:53 PM
 
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Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A “Planetary Regime” with the power of life and death over American citizens.
The tyrannical fantasies of a madman? Or merely the opinions of the person now in control of science policy in the United States? Or both?
These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology — informally known as the United States’ Science Czar. In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:

cryptogon.com » Archives » John Holdren, Obama’s Science Czar, Says: Forced Abortions and Mass Sterilization Needed to Save the Planet

John Holdren, Obama’s recent choice for “Science Czar,” provides the latest and perhaps most troubling example of extremism. In the name of population control, Holdren has advocated both forced abortion and compulsory sterilization through government-administered tainting of the water supply.
In a 1977 book he co-authored, called “Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment,” Holdren called for a “Planetary Regime” to enforce mandatory abortions for population control and limit the use of natural resources.
Holdren wrote: “There exists ample authority under which population growth could be regulated. It has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.”



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Old 07-30-2009, 07:42 PM
 
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Wow that sure sounds like an extremist view. Talk about cherry picking and taking quotes out of context!

What his book actually recommended was that the best option for population control was "the use of milder methods of influencing family size preferences, such as access to birth control and abortion."

Forced abortion and sterilization were listed as extreme options, not realistic solutions.

Holdren testified to the Senate committee in 2009 that he does not believe that government should have a role in determining population size and stated that he has never endorsed forced sterilization.

Of course, I realize many of you consider any type of abortion as wrong, and birth control as against god's will.
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:07 PM
 
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Wow that sure sounds like an extremist view. Talk about cherry picking and taking quotes out of context!
Yes, I basically put it out here for analyzation but -- sheeesh!!! That's republic of China style totalitarian talk and definitely fuel for right wing fear mongering if true at all.

Are you saying his statements don't alarm you at all?
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:27 PM
 
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It sounds about right considering who is in charge!
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:34 PM
 
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This is only the tip of an enormous iceberg...the "key" word(s) being..."population control!" Read on, and make your own judgement call...we'll see...the jury is out for sure!

Dear Friends –
Lucifer, Satan, the devil is the true head of the antichrist New World Order. Lucifer is a spirit being who was the wisest and most beautiful of God’s created beings. He has a human Antichrist Prince to head this New Word Order in the political, and economic part, which he will eventually fully indwell. He also has a second beast, false prophet Pope, to head up the New World Order religion of antichrist Satanic tolerance, which will NOT tolerate commandment observant Jews and REAL commandment observant Christians. The first and second beasts will finally lead and require all people who have not already been killed, to worship the Antichrist Prince who will be fully indwelled by Satan himself. That 666 based ID Chip or bio-chip being received IN the right and or forehead SEALS the eternal destiny of anyone and everyone who receives that 666 mark of the beast IN their right hand or forehead.

Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

There is NO such thing as the pre-trib rapture. We have ALL, 100% of us, been LEFT BEHIND to do as Jesus said – ENDURE TO THE END – till the dead in Christ shall rise, on that Last Day, at the Last Trump.
(Matt 24:29-32, Deu 4:30-31, Mark 13:24-27, I Cor 15:51-52, John 6:39, 40, 44, & 54, John 17:15 etc, etc, etc, with not one single verse in the entire Holy Bible, in context, rightly divided by the Holy Ghost, saying pre-trib.)
It is important to understand that Lucifer comes only to steal, kill, and destroy. It is even MORE IMPORTANT to KNOW that he is a totally defeated foe, who has only FEAR, IGNORANCE, and DECEPTION with which to destroy the people of God. The Word of God is the only real way of defense and addresses all three.

Just looking at the first commandment of Lucifer’s 10 quickly brings things into focus. Click it up and see it chiseled in stone at – www.moresureword.com/luciferten.htm

Number One – Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. UNDERSTAND that means 95% of the ,771,056,672 people on earth must be KILLED. That is the Antichrist New World Order NUMBER ONE objective. No, we do not get to vote on it. That is Lucifer's plan, and in the final 42 months God LETS Lucifer and his antichrist New World Order loose. The devil comes only to steal, KILL and destroy - the Luciferians are ready NOW, the antichrist Luciferians will have WWIII and blame it on the Jews.

Canadian doctor Ghislaine Lanctôt warns that the elite and their minions will introduce a compulsory vaccination that will contain a deadly virus and this will be used specifically as a eugenics weapon for “massive and targeted reduction of the world population.” Moreover, a pandemic will also be used to further establish martial law and a police state. According to Lanctôt, the NWO will activate concentration camps built to accommodate the rebellious, and eventually transfer power from all nations to a single United Nations government, and thus fulfill the sinister plans of the New World Order.

By the time you receive this there will be an audio about this Swine flu FORCED vaccinations, which the Luciferian New World Order plans to implement. Yes, there may be a sliver bullet for the Saints, which you may hear about, and much more about this plan of Global FORCED vaccination at this link –
http://www.gjigt-radio.com/podcast/audio/PestilenceRadio.mp3

There is NO pandemic. Yet the WHO said the virus is considered unstoppable, while admitting little evidence of it spreading so far, most cases are mild, and the vast majority of people recover unaided. It is crucial to understand that these vaccines are experimental, untested, toxic and extremely dangerous to the human immune system. They contain squalene-based adjuvants that cause a host of problems some of which are life threatening autoimmune diseases. They MUST be avoided, even if mandated. It is also known that vaccines do NOT protect against diseases they are designed to prevent and often cause them.

I think it is safe to say that the most recent addition to the GJiGT-Radio library is a MUST hear audio on Pestilence, Swine Flue – What Shall We Do? This Audio will put this forced Vaccination scheme in perspective in a hurry. It may also provide the Saints scattered abroad the only silver bullet to be able to AVOID the danger of this experimental and DANGEROUS forced vaccination.
http://www.gjigt-radio.com/podcast/audio/PestilenceRadio.mp3

Vaccines should be banned but continue to expand, and now will even be FORCED, because they are so profitable. It maximizes the profitability of a vaccine if it is globally mandated to the greatest extent ever.

THEY REPENTED NOT OF THEIR SORCERY and DRUG USE.
Rev 18 makes it clear for by thy sorceries (DRUGS) were all nations deceived.

Get ready, because that's precisely what's coming - universal orders to risk toxic vaccine hazards. In the coming weeks, the dominant media globally will get into high gear fear-mongering mode to convince people voluntarily to submit to jeopardizing their health and well being. It's essential to refuse, and be safe, and be prepared to at least mention the International Law, from the Nuremburg Code, that should absolutely protect us from FORCED vaccination against our will.

Think through the logic of FORCED vaccination with me...If people do NOT want to be vaccinated, are they not just going to die, and the ones who are vaccinated will not die? That is what we are being told to believe. Well then, WHY DOES IT MATTER IF A FEW RESIST AND WILL NOT BE VACCINATED? Are we not being told the unvaccinated will die, and the vaccinated will not die?

THERE IS ONE BIG HOLE IN THE LOGIC OF THE PRO-VACCINATION GLOBAL FORCED VACCINATION GANG OF CONTROL FREAKS. If we are to believe the un-vaccinated will die and the vaccinated will live, WHY MUST EVERYONE BE FORCED TO BE VACCINATED? What is the big problem if a few say NO, I will NOT take your vaccination? ]Are not the global vaccination fans and thugs telling us the vaccination protects against the disease? SOMETHING BIG IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE. Why must it be mandatory and forced, if it really protects? If one is vaccinated, an unvaccinated person who is infected, cannot infect a vaccinated individual? Right? If that is NOT the truth, then why would you or anyone get vaccinated? FORCED Vaccination can ONLY MEAN that there is some OTHER agenda, other than medical safety of the masses.

THIS STINKS to high heaven, the very idea of FORCED vaccination.

The International Law established by the Nuremburg Code says the perpetrators of forced vaccination against the will of anyone is a WAR CRIMINAL.

In this month of July, 2009, Lucifers top prince and head of the New World Order made public declaration of victory for the Luciferian antichrist New World Order. Mr. 666 made his head man declaration just days before the second beast, false prophet pope made his similar Luciferian global declaration of victory Encyclical Letter.

The prince said we can no longer afford consumerism and that the age of convenience was over. The prince told industrialists that the price of capitalism and consumerism is just too high. We will have global FASCISM. The prince said there are less than 96 months left. One might say he made the ultimate push for the greatest tax increase ever conceived.

The extremely regressive carbon tax is designed to put 2,000-4,000 per year in taxes on EVERYONE’S Electric bill. The carbon tax, which any true science proves will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about global warming, will drive the final nail in the coffin of the freedom, and quality of life improvement brought by the industrial revolution. The engine of production for the industrialized nations will be killed DEAD. The carbon tax is simply to tax the last drop of life out of the poor of this world. This was a victory declaration of NWO global antichrist governments of this world. It is certain to bring famine, war, and plague. (Refer to Lucifer’s commandment Number One to understand.)

Yes, just like the last GJiGT update, wherein you saw the antichrist’s false prophet pope speak as the dragon, more-so than any encyclical in history.

Both the antichrist prince first beast, Mr. 666, and his antichrist false prophet pope, declared victory for Lucifer’s antichrist global NWO government this month.

Understand that the end game of this worst economic crisis in history is that he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Rev 13:16-17

More companies are now asking employees to take unpaid leave, more than ever in history including the great depression. The recent woeful news from the Jan-Mar US government figures did NOT include more than 1.4 million people wanted work and were not counted. These over 1.4 million were not counted because they had given up searching for work.

When one takes the FUDGE out of the government statistics we find that the total unemployed is above 17%, making the true US unemployed who want to work to be about 25 million. How could this happen when Washington has thrown trillions of dollars into the pot, including the famous $787 billion in stimulus spending that was supposed to yield $1.50 in growth for every dollar spent?

For a start, too much of the money went to transfer payments such as Medicaid, jobless benefits and the like that do nothing for jobs and growth. The spending that creates new jobs is new spending, particularly on infrastructure which amounts to less than 10% of the stimulus package today. Even Obama’s Vice President Biden said last week that the administration misread how bad the economy was and how effective the stimulus would be. It was supposed to be about jobs, but it wasn't.

The Recovery Act was a single piece of legislation but it included thousands of funding schemes for tens of thousands of projects, and those programs are stuck in the bureaucracy as the government releases the funds with typical inefficiency. As expected there has been no wage increases for the typical person who still has work. Taxes are increasing. Costs of goods and services are increasing, and the buying power or value of money is rapidly decreasing.

The antichrist is to be the historic world record holder when it comes to raising taxes. The various carbon tax schemes, such as the Cap & Trade, will squeeze the last drops of blood out of millions of poor people. AND KILL THE INDUSTRIAL MACHINERY OF THE INDUSTRIALIZED NATIONS.
Dan 11:20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.

In regard to Global Warming let me just say, CARBON and CO2 has NOTHING to do with it. It has no more effect than if you were to blow hard to try to blow out the sun and solve the global warming problem. You can easily prove it to yourself that the melting of the polar ice caps is not going to flood the coastal towns of the earth. Just do this – Fill a glass with ice cubes all the way up over the edge of the glass, and then carefully fill the glass with water till it is at the brink of overflowing the edge of the glass. Most would think when that ice floating above the level of the water melts the water would overflow. NO, try it yourself, you will see the water level goes DOWN in the glass because ICE IS LESS DENSE THAN WATER. The polar bear population is INCREASING.

The polar Ice Caps GREW last winter. It is Science FALSELY so-called, and all LIES, LIES, LIES that CO2 has anything to do with global warming. It is a LIE to literally TAX 93% of the people on earth literally to DEATH. God has revealed the real science of global warming...
And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

Rev 16:8-9 is what the Holy Bible, and my degree and professional registration in science and engineering tell me, is the true science.

Wise people will REPENT rather than being in favor of Satan’s sustainable antichrist prince and false prophet pope TAXING the life out of Billions for their god of death. The carbon tax will certainly lead to global war, famine, and pestilence, as the final nail is driven into the coffin of the industry of the industrialized world.

Yes, you know that I could go on and on. I will try to put together an audio summary to go up on the GJiGT Radio. People who are not using the KJV Holy Bible can not understand how greatly deceived that they are. If you have not read every word of the KJV, that I like to call the King Jesus Version, the way God Said, you better get started TODAY and make that your highest priority. You are in trouble, and under great deceptive pressure, and subject to a very strong delusion, if you do not KNOW what God said by reading the KJV Holy Bible precept upon precept line upon line Gen-Rev. Someone should love you enough to tell you that STRAIGHT.

The antichrist prince and his second beast false prophet pope have already DECLARED VICTORY.

The just shall live by his faith.

If you have not read the God promised PERFECT Holy Bible the way that God said, you are short on THE Faith which can enable you to live, and endure to the end of this Antichrist War on the Saints, AKA, the New World Order
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Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem. Pray Psalm 83 every day. Only be very strong and of good courage. Stay IN the Word.

From Chittim, Isa 23:1,
Shalom & Simcha,
Jim Searcy

Please bookmark BOTH new GJiGT web sites with the most recent updates:
http://www.moresureword.com

http://www.jimsearcy.com


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Old 07-30-2009, 08:44 PM
 
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See what I mean?
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Old 07-30-2009, 09:56 PM
 
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Yes, I basically put it out here for analyzation but -- sheeesh!!! That's republic of China style totalitarian talk and definitely fuel for right wing fear mongering if true at all.

Are you saying his statements don't alarm you at all?
If I believed your interpretation of his comments, I would be very alarmed.
I went to several sources for more information, not just the biased source you stated.

He says now, in 2009, that he does not believe that government should have a role in determining population size and stated that he has never endorsed forced sterilization. I repeated this from my earlier post, as it seems you did not read it.

Verna, I could not get through your post. Waaay out there in chicken little land!
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:25 PM
 
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[quote=Sizzly Friddle;10031820]If I believed your interpretation of his comments, I would be very alarmed.
I went to several sources for more information, not just the biased source you stated.

He says now, in 2009, that he does not believe that government should have a role in determining population size and stated that he has never endorsed forced sterilization. I repeated this from my earlier post, as it seems you did not read it.

Verna, I could not get through your post. Waaay out there in chicken little land![/quote]

I'm sorry you feel that way.
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:00 AM
 
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If I believed your interpretation of his comments, I would be very alarmed.
I went to several sources for more information, not just the biased source you stated.
I have no interpretation - I am working and could only skim and so asked "is this for real?" (thanks for the info BTW!)


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He says now, in 2009, that he does not believe that government should have a role in determining population size and stated that he has never endorsed forced sterilization.
Yeah, like he's NOT going to renounce it now? Just like Obama never knew what his long time pastor said? (I'm playing the fundie's advocate here).
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Old 07-31-2009, 01:23 AM
 
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Yes, I basically put it out here for analyzation but -- sheeesh!!! That's republic of China style totalitarian talk and definitely fuel for right wing fear mongering if true at all.

Are you saying his statements don't alarm you at all?
They are not his statements...You said on another thread that Christians were not allowed to lie...I guess its ok to spread lies without checking them out first, is that right?

Overpopulation was an early concern and interest. In 1969, writing with The Population Bomb author Paul R. Ehrlich, Holdren argued that, "if the population control measures are not initiated immediately, and effectively, all the technology man can bring to bear will not fend off the misery to come." In 1973 Holdren encouraged a decline in fertility to well below replacement in the United States, because "210 million now is too many and 280 million in 2040 is likely to be much too many". In 1977 he co-authored (with Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich) the textbook Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment, which, after discussing the possible role of a wide variety of solutions to overpopulation, ranging from voluntary family planning to enforced population controls, ultimately recommended "the use of milder methods of influencing family size preferences" such as access to birth control and abortion.

LifeNews.com is a Web site dedicated to presenting the pro-life view of news events current and relevant to pro-life advocates and activists, and as a "service provider to furnish news content to media that share the pro-life perspective....Biased site!
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