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"tongues" are for those who go around spreading Good News. It only happens when to go to countries or place where they can't speak their language, then Holy Spirit or authorized by God to get one of His angels to take over their tongue, if not the whole body, and speak while the person doesn't know what words they just spoke said. They will know that it come from Holy Spirit (if was the first time, God will give them wisdom and understanding to understand what just happen) or so and only if God see that it is worth of time to get lost sheeps listen about Good News so they will be saved. It only happens as expect the unexpected. No need to have any training at all.
I said, '"tongues" are for those who go around spreading Good News.'
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Originally Posted by Submariner
Could you please share with us any Bible passage that you feel supports this idea?
Verse of Luke 1:19 tell us that God send one of His Children (angels of God) to spread good news. This happen in dream as one meaning of "tongues," but I was thinking other meaning when I typed "tongues" in my recent post I made applying to only, but not limited to, this verses of Luke 4:42-44 when Jesus was filled with Holy Spirit and he got full "tongues" (happen to have God's power) to speak God's words so he got the "tongues" to speak and taught his followers and crowd. Jesus authorized 12 apostles to have the power of "tongues" according to Matthew 10:19-20 about Father of God will take over their body and talk to officers of government when they don't know what or how to say to them. There are lot of verses, but I think this is enough to get the understand.
I said, "It only happens when to go to countries or place where they can't speak their language"
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Originally Posted by Submariner
Could you please share with us any Bible passage that you feel supports this idea?
Acts 2:1-5, Acts 10:44-45, Acts 19:6, 1 Corinthians 14:5, etc. However, "tougues" mention in bible have it own meaning to match what the story is about. So, I see many kind of "tougues" and it happen only for grow church (body as growing your seed into tree with God's word).
I said, "... or authorized by God to get one of His angels to take over their tounge" and you asked, "Could you please share with us any Bible passage that you feel supports this idea?"
I just showed some verses and that should be enough. There are lot of them.
I'm not preaching against the KJV. I'm merely showing some of its obvious flaws, and I could do the same for other versions. I do, however find the two things I mentioned especially egregious. Particularly since these errors have existed since 1611 and have never been corrected. The thing I'm mostly against, however, is KJV onlyism which places a flawed translation (like other translations) at the level of absolute truth or at least as being superior to all other versions which it most certainly is not.
The KJV was printed in 1611. There is no second edition. That was when it was printed. There have been many thousands of re-prints.
King James has been dead for centuries. He is not getting up from his grave to authorize a second edition.
The KJV was printed in 1611. There is no second edition. That was when it was printed. There have been many thousands of re-prints.
King James has been dead for centuries. He is not getting up from his grave to authorize a second edition.
Actually there have been four editions, but no true revisions to the KJV. The changes made in these editions were mostly just spelling corrections or updates from archaic to more modern spellings, or corrections of obvious misprints. The translations themselves, however, have been preserved in their original form since 1611. The NKJV is not really a revision of the KJV, but an entirely different translation.
However, although this may seem an advantage and a protection from corruption, if the original was already flawed and corrupted, then this only serves to protect against correction of those flaws. Translations are never without flaws, and as Biblical scholarship improves our understanding of the source texts it becomes necessary to update our translations. The problem in accomplishing this lies not in scholarship but in the biased opinions of those who control the path that translation efforts take. There has never been, nor will there ever be a perfect translation. The key to preserving the intent of the writers lies not in trying to preserve a single text, but in having multiple texts available with the best possible scholarship guiding translation efforts so that no single rendering becomes dominant and the truth is therefore preserved through this multiplicity of available texts. Scripture is after all not preserved in translations but in the original language manuscripts, and as long as these are preserved, the truth contained in scripture will not be lost. For the serious Bible student, however, it is a mistake to study from a single translation text, but best rather to refer to multiple texts guided by reference to the original language texts and quality study aids.
Did you notice the last part ....it's the Lord G-d speaking to Christ the Lord. Peace
The point is that Adoni is never a reference to God. The Messiah is Adoni, not Adonai. The Messiah is not God, but a man. The Messiah is Yahweh's human son.
The point is that Adoni is never a reference to God. The Messiah is Adoni, not Adonai. The Messiah is not God, but a man. The Messiah is Yahweh's human son.
Well, some in Jesus's day had that confused too. That's why He pointed out to them He couldn't be David's son when David called Him Lord. Let that sink in for a moment. Peace
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