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Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me...
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now, I see.
Were we a wretch before we received God's grace?
a base, despicable, or vile person
Is that Biblical?
Romans 3
23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Sounds like a "wretch" to me. Sin cannot dwell in the presence of God. Through Adam and Eve's sin all of humanity are born into sin. It is only through Christ that we are made perfect through the blood of Christ.
The grace of God through Christ washes away that sin, and I am now worthy to be in the presence of God. God's grace through Christ has indeed saved all who believe.
Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me...
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now, I see.
Were we a wretch before we received God's grace?
a base, despicable, or vile person
Is that Biblical?
It's interesting that you'd ask that. Although the Mormon Tabernacle Choir has made a beautiful recording of that hymn, for years and years they never sang it, and I always suspected that that word was the reason why. As a Latter-day Saint, I don't believe in the doctrine of Original Sin. I believe that each of us was born clean and pure, free from any sin whatsoever. Yes, we do sin and when we do, we distance ourselves from our Father in Heaven. But we can also repent and be forgiven of our sins. Personally, I believe He looks at us more as children who have strayed than as "wretches."
Well at least you thought it was "wench" and not "wrench".
A little kid mind can think some weird things based on one misheard word.
haha - no joke. In worship last Sunday my daughter told me Elijah (my little 3 year old adopted grandson) blurted out loudly during a soft worship song "He said Panties!!!" (I think it was King Jame's fault - "as the deer panteth for the waters").
Later my 18 year old daughter heard "Cake and ice cream" in another song but actually it was saying "I kick and I scream"
I can remember being 7 or so and they would sing this song "Leaning on the everlasting arms" and I would ALWAYS picture a man leaning against a big rifle cabinet... It went on to say "Safe and secure from all alarms" - well - I guess so with all those guns. Made perfect sense .
The dictionary calls a wretch a miserable, unfortunate, unhappy person,,... without Jesus in your spirit, you will be unfortunate because he is a God bearing many gifts that the world will not have..... In Revelations 3:17 Jesus is saying to the Church of Lacdiceans...``Because you say I am rich and increaced with goods and have need of nothing and knowest not that you are WREtCHED and miserable and poor and blind and naked```...... Means that people say they are rich is things and therefor they get proud and cannot recieve from heaven and get the sin of avarice, and they can not see that money can not make them happy, and unmiserable and naked like Adam sin made him naked........... In Numbers 11:17 ..Moses was having a hard time being a leader `` And if you deal thus with me, kill me, I pray thee out of hand if I have found favour in your sight, and let me not see my WRETCHEDNESS``
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