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Old 03-25-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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I suspect that it exactly what the developers intended. Their mission was to stem the tide of money flowing to the casinos in other states. I believe they will achieve that goal. Another objective is to capture the largest possible percentage of the money spent in Cincinnati by their patrons. I believe they will also achieve this.

A casino is a casino, people go there to spend their time indoors. The interior appeal is several times more important than the exterior. As long as people do not have a difficult time in identifying the location, finding a place to park, and the various entrances are convenient to them, that is all they want. This is not Las Vegas where people wander the strip to take in all of the glitz and glitter.

The casino occupies a plot of ground which had been sitting empty and noone was rushing to utilize. It is also downtown which is where it belongs. But to have used the space it requires carved out of the Banks development would have been a huge mistake. The casino is one of the few things which can stand entirely on its own in the current location.
But there could have been a huge additional spill-over effect from the Reds and Bengals games if the casino was on the river. However, I assert there will be a muted effect due to the distance between them.
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:34 AM
 
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I suspect that it exactly what the developers intended. Their mission was to stem the tide of money flowing to the casinos in other states. I believe they will achieve that goal. Another objective is to capture the largest possible percentage of the money spent in Cincinnati by their patrons. I believe they will also achieve this.

A casino is a casino, people go there to spend their time indoors. The interior appeal is several times more important than the exterior. As long as people do not have a difficult time in identifying the location, finding a place to park, and the various entrances are convenient to them, that is all they want. This is not Las Vegas where people wander the strip to take in all of the glitz and glitter.

The casino occupies a plot of ground which had been sitting empty and noone was rushing to utilize. It is also downtown which is where it belongs. But to have used the space it requires carved out of the Banks development would have been a huge mistake. The casino is one of the few things which can stand entirely on its own in the current location.
This is exactly right.

A casino at The Banks would require far too much space, eliminating the real things that should go there such as residential, retail and restaurants. The Broadway location is perfect.
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:48 PM
 
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Went there Saturday Night, saw a great little live band in the circle lounge, drank a couple beers, lost 5 dollars in penny slots, then walked back to The Banks where we started our day. I thought it was a pretty fun place!
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA
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How soon we forget the reason all that space was available for new construction. When the dubiously necessary replacement to Riverfront Stadium was in the planning stages, a sizable faction wanted it to be located where the casino is. Even the name (Broadway Commons) had been selected. The land was cleared for that purpose.

It's definitely an open question as to whether the Indiana casinos can withstand their new competition downtown. Just today I learned that one of the big "destination" casinos in Connecticut which opened in the '90s is in financial straits. Back not too long ago Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun were the only game, or gaming if you will, in town in the Northeast short of traveling to Atlantic City. Gradually that monopoly is eroding as horse and greyhound racetracks are allowed to add slot parlors, there are same-day "cruises to nowhere," etc. And developers are falling over each other for the rights to build the three casinos which are now permitted in Massachusetts.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:53 PM
 
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A casino is a casino, people go there to spend their time indoors. The interior appeal is several times more important than the exterior. As long as people do not have a difficult time in identifying the location, finding a place to park, and the various entrances are convenient to them, that is all they want. This is not Las Vegas where people wander the strip to take in all of the glitz and glitter.
The purpose of the casino is to keep people in the casino. They'll offer enough bars and restaurants to keep people from running down the street and supporting other local businesses.

Casino advocates always sell the benefits that a new casino will bring but few businesses see much benfit.
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Old 04-03-2013, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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I suspect that it exactly what the developers intended. Their mission was to stem the tide of money flowing to the casinos in other states. I believe they will achieve that goal. Another objective is to capture the largest possible percentage of the money spent in Cincinnati by their patrons. I believe they will also achieve this.

A casino is a casino, people go there to spend their time indoors. The interior appeal is several times more important than the exterior. As long as people do not have a difficult time in identifying the location, finding a place to park, and the various entrances are convenient to them, that is all they want. This is not Las Vegas where people wander the strip to take in all of the glitz and glitter.

The casino occupies a plot of ground which had been sitting empty and noone was rushing to utilize. It is also downtown which is where it belongs. But to have used the space it requires carved out of the Banks development would have been a huge mistake. The casino is one of the few things which can stand entirely on its own in the current location.

It was a huge surface parking lot...so yeah it was certainly an under used part of Downtown.

This location will help drive more gentrification to Pendleton as well...eventually from Washington Park all the way to Pendleton will become a great neighborhood.
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:15 PM
 
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Heard this place gets ghetto at night... is this true?
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Heard this place gets ghetto at night... is this true?
dang it just opened.
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Mason, OH
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Heard this place gets ghetto at night... is this true?
Where did you hear this from? I strongly doubt it is anything close to it. There may be some slow periods on weekday nights, but how does that equate to ghetto? Are gangs of thugs hanging out on nearby corners to accost patrons? You ask if it is true, what are your sources of information?
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:48 PM
 
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Heard this place gets ghetto at night... is this true?
Not true. I've been there at night several times and it never seemed ghetto... at all.
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