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It's on the same scale as those. I'd rank it below for many reasons. Somebody was going off on education, which is obviously very important.
Here is a national map of the top 40, u.s. news
St Louis/Pittsburgh/Cleveland all have a top 40 while Seattle doesn't.
That is just one field...
If you wanted to go into the arts, all 3 fare better than Seattle.
Sports? They all have more major league teams than Seattle.
I'm just wondering where you are getting this idea to put Seattle above these cities?
Now Seattle is probably more scenic, better restaurants, better music scene, higher qol, more literate, certainly trendier...all that stuff. But that doesn't mean it is a higher caliber city...
I am not even sure if Seattle is *on the rise* either. It lost its biggest company Boeing, and WaMu/Safeco the past decade, which were 3 of its Fortune 500s, as well as their NBA team which went to Oklahoma City.
UW is a globally significant research university that is a major national player, so its not like there's no higher education in Seattle. I've seen rankings of UW as a top 20 global university...there are many rankings that evaulate schools in different ways.
Also, is there some sort of objective ranking on arts that I'm not aware of, that places lower tier cities like pittsburgh, cleveland and st. louis ahead of Seattle? Does that even figure into this argument at all?
The fact is, Seattle is larger population-wise, has a much, much larger GDP, and is a major economic player on the pacifc rim. It's a major port city, something the inland cities cannot achieve.
It's on the same scale as those. I'd rank it below for many reasons. Somebody was going off on education, which is obviously very important.
Here is a national map of the top 40, u.s. news
St Louis/Pittsburgh/Cleveland all have a top 40 while Seattle doesn't.
That is just one field...
If you wanted to go into the arts, all 3 fare better than Seattle.
Sports? They all have more major league teams than Seattle.
I'm just wondering where you are getting this idea to put Seattle above these cities?
Now Seattle is probably more scenic, better restaurants, better music scene, higher qol, more literate, certainly trendier...all that stuff. But that doesn't mean it is a higher caliber city...
I am not even sure if Seattle is *on the rise* either. It lost its biggest company Boeing, and WaMu/Safeco the past decade, which were 3 of its Fortune 500s, as well as their NBA team which went to Oklahoma City.
Seattle is most definitely on the rise I would argue. Seattle's position on the pacific rim and it's historical connections to Asia will only help it in the future. It's fared pretty well compared to other cities during this recession and it's still a place that more people are moving to, instead of away from. It's been over a decade since Boeing left during which time other Seattle based companies have experienced major growth. While the loss of the Sonics sucked, it really has no bearing on whether Seattle is on the rise or not.
Seattle is most definitely on the rise I would argue. Seattle's position on the pacific rim and it's historical connections to Asia will only help it in the future. It's fared pretty well compared to other cities during this recession and it's still a place that more people are moving to, instead of away from. It's been over a decade since Boeing left during which time other Seattle based companies have experienced major growth. While the loss of the Sonics sucked, it really has no bearing on whether Seattle is on the rise or not.
The Sounders have filled in for the sonics pretty well...almost 40k every game. More than some NFL teams can manage.
UW is a globally significant research university that is a major national player, so its not like there's no higher education in Seattle. I've seen rankings of UW as a top 20 global university...there are many rankings that evaulate schools in different ways.
Also, is there some sort of objective ranking on arts that I'm not aware of, that places lower tier cities like pittsburgh, cleveland and st. louis ahead of Seattle? Does that even figure into this argument at all?
The fact is, Seattle is larger population-wise, has a much, much larger GDP, and is a major economic player on the pacifc rim. It's a major port city, something the inland cities cannot achieve.
As of 2008, Seattle's GMP is actually the seventh largest of the entire Pacific Rim. Pretty impressive.
1. Tokyo
2. Los Angeles
3. Osaka
4. Hong Kong
5. San Francisco
6. Seoul
7. Seattle
8. Shanghai
9. Singapore
10. Sydney
11. San Diego
12. Melbourne
13. Manila
14. Guangzhou
15. Busan
16. Santiago
17. Bangkok
18. Portland
19. Lima
20. Vancouver
p.s. San Francisco shoots up to 3rd if you use Bay Area data
My hesitation is that Dallas and Boston seem like "command centers" of the U.S. economy, whereas Seattle and Denver are more like regional capitals. I haven't looked at GMP numbers yet though.
Here are the GMP numbers from 2008 (obviously things may have changed since the economic meltdown)
The closest city, St. Louis, is 8 spots behind Seattle, and is just 56% the size of Seattle's GMP. Denver is just a few spots behind Seattle and is roughly 2/3 the size of Seattle's economy.
Pittsburgh is 10 spots behind Seattle. and Cleveland doesn't crack the top 25. Does this correlate to how "important" a city is on a national scale? I think so. Seattle may not belong in the same tier as the upper echelon cities such as Houston, Boston, and San Francisco, but I think you have to conclude that its a notch above places like Cleveland, Milwaukee, Pitt, etc (as an entire package).
My hesitation is that Dallas and Boston seem like "command centers" of the U.S. economy, whereas Seattle and Denver are more like regional capitals. I haven't looked at GMP numbers yet though.
It's on the same scale as those. I'd rank it below for many reasons. Somebody was going off on education, which is obviously very important.
Here is a national map of the top 40, u.s. news
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awwww one little dot in Texas and such a big and populous stat too. get on the ball Texas
awwww one little dot in Texas and such a big and populous stat too. get on the ball Texas
I think universities in Texas are underrated and don't receive the recognition that they deserve.
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and such a big and populous stat too. get on the ball Texas
