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Staten Island has urban parts too. A large part of Queens is suburban and parts of The Bronx are even suburban. Staten Island used to be more of a "step child" but it has evolved somewhat since the Verrazano Bridge.
I don't see Philadelphia as the 6th borough, and not so much because of distance (only 45 miles in a straight line) because some NYC bus routes take more time than a commute between Philly & NYC. Shoot my daily commute is like a flight to Miami. Las Vegas twice a week (double commute), I really need to get my license but that's another topic. So I don't want to hear that distance mess lol.
Philadelphia is it's own city however the ties between the NYC & Philly metro areas (or metro area) can't be ignored, watch them eventually become one MSA (or is it CSA?).
It's at least 80 miles in a straight line. How are you getting 45??
The number of Bucks County commuters that go into Mercer County is a shade below 25%, to NYC proper latest estimates are about 12K out 650K residents
sadly I was in Newtown and Yardley on Saturday, and there were memorial services to the residents of these towns that passed on 9/11 who worked in the twin towers. I grew uo in this area and even 20 years ago many people commuted to manhattan, this has increased but is not close to a majority of residents, nor will it ever be
Now it is true that far more residents commute to either Philadelphia or Montogomery county
Burrently the connection of Mercer and Bucks is what will likely combine the two Metros Philly and NYC into one CSA either this census or next - even when this does happen Philly and NYC will retain their own distinct identity. There is a plan for a 38 minute rail connection between center city and Manhattan, will see if that ever comes to pass...
There is a plan for a 38 minute rail connection between center city and Manhattan, will see if that ever comes to pass...
And if this EVER happens look out....Philadelphia will be complaining up a wall about NYC transplants driving up rents....38mins Jeeze that's faster than E train from Midtown to Jackson Heights Qns...The only thing that will keep the NYC commuters away is if the Fare/Passes are Extremely high, meaning almost no saving over renting in NYC....
I mean why rent in Brooklyn when I can have the Manhattan Life in Center City for cheaper and the real Manhattan is only 38 mins away.....That's going to be too good to pass up....
i'm guessing 75% of the vote is not from the northeast cities & and the other 25% is from NYC
This is because alot of people outside NE, think of NYC as tourists; NYC = Manhattan. Skyscraper City USA. They forget about the growing Center City. And they think of Philadelphia as just rowhouses and lower middle class. Its really outdated sterotypes.
They forget that the great majority of the NYC's land area, its buildings and ITS PEOPLE live outside Manhattan. Both Brooklyn and Queens ARE BOTH larger in land area and population than Manhattan. And they are both covered with large areas of rowhouses.
In Connecticut, some people like to think that Fairfield County is NY's 6th borough. As ridiculous as that is, it's even more ridiculous to perceive Philly as the 6th borough.
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