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Old 11-11-2010, 06:38 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Same as with the Subway and Light Rail threads , now we ,move onto Regional Rail threads.....all numbers are taken form APTA Data and Future projections are taken form various blogs....


1.
LIRR

Location : Long Island and Manhattan
Daily Ridership : 341,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 570,000+)
System size : 700+ mi
Stations : 124
Future upgrades / Expansions : Wading River line Restoration , Central Branch , Montauk Branch , Port Jefferson Branch Electrification , East Side Access Project


2.
NJT Regional Rail

Location : New Jersey , Rockland and Orange counties NY
Daily Ridership : 330,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 750,000+)
System size : 536 mi
Stations : 162 stations
Future Upgrades / Expansions : Flemington line , West Trenton line , Cape May line , Toms River line , Freehold line , Lehigh Valley line , Philpsburg Extension of the Morristown line , Lackawanna line , Pompton line , Sparta line , 5 New Transfer Stations ,more Electrification


3.
Metra

Location : Chicagoland
Daily Ridership : 304,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 490,000+)
System size : 487 mi
Stations : 239
Future Upgrades / Expansions : SouthEast Service , Suburban Transit Access Route


4.
MNRR

Location : Northern NYC Suburbs and Connecticut
Daily Ridership : 287,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 420,000+)
System size : 156 mi
Stations : 120
Future upgrades / Expansions : MNRR expansion to Penn Station , Restoration of the Graham & Beacon lines


5.
MBTA Regional Rail

Location : Eastern Massachusetts , Northern Rhode Island
Daily Ridership : 130,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 642,000+)
System size : 368 mi
Stations : 132
Future Upgrades / Expansions : Restoration of Cape Cod , Newport / Fall River line , New Bedford line , Greenfield line , Concord line , Portsmouth / Newburyport line , Manchester / Lawrence line.... North - South Tunnel , Ayer line , Electrified lines


6.
Septa Regional Rail

Location : Southeastern PA , Northern Delaware , and Southern Jersey
Daily Ridership : 121,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 370,000+)
System size : 450 mi
Stations : 150
Future Upgrades / Expansions : Restoration of West Chester , Reading , Allentown , Stony Branch , Newton lines ....New lines , New Hope ,
Parkersburg Extension of the Thorndale line , Newark / Boothywn line , Coatesville line , Oxford lines


7.
LA Metrolink

Location : LA Metro
Daily Ridership : 40,300 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 180,000+)
System size : 512 mi
Stations : 55
Future Upgrades / Expansions : 4 line extensions and 20 proposed stations


8.
Caltrain

Location : SF-SJ US 101 Corridor
Daily Ridership (one line) : 40,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 70,000+)
System size : 77 mi
Stations : 32
Future Upgrades / Expansions : Electrification , HSR service , and 2 new lines


9.
MARC Train

Location : Maryland
Daily Ridership : 33,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 160,000+)
System size : 187 mi
Stations : 43
Future Upgrades / Expansions : Restoration of the Annapolis , LA plata lines and Extension of the Brunswick line to Hagerstorm , service to Ocean City and Penn Service to Wilmington



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02y9ay3hOr0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D1vxEoNtIA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFb8FlqFTzo
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Old 11-12-2010, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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The projected ridership figs for 2030 are... interesting. Does the NJT figure assume ARC?
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Old 11-13-2010, 12:04 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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The projected ridership figs for 2030 are... interesting. Does the NJT figure assume ARC?
No this was done Independently which is usually right , NJT is always off.....by up 40,000.....

We factored in Job growth in Jersey City , Newark , Paterson , New Brunswick , Camden , Trenton and Hackensack.......

The Top Stations would be

1.
Newark Penn Station
Currently used by 190,000
Projected by 2030 350,000


2.
Hoboken Terminal
Currently used by 50,000
Projected by 2030 270,000


3.
Secaucus JCT
Currently used by 30,000
Projected by 2030 60,000
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Old 11-14-2010, 02:09 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Must be some damn impressive job growth.
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Old 11-14-2010, 04:16 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Must be some damn impressive job growth.
For counting the Numbers for Newark and Hoboken we also counted Population growth. The Numbers for Newark and Hoboken also include PATH , Bus and Light Rail totals. The Population spike in Harrison and Ironbound will factor in Newark Penn's Growth , Hoboken will see a spike due to the Newer Condos planned near the Station and the Newer Cooperate High Rise offices in Downtown.
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:22 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Here's some recent NJT videos i took...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6UHq2cwNGw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcRemasblQU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMNGAAj4_xs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFjuKVqYHMk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBGOfeF32fw
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:24 PM
 
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In terms of ridership, the order is a bit off.

The top three systems in terms of ridership are, in order,

1. LIRR
2. Metro North
3. NJ Transit

You can go to the APTA website and get the quarterly totals. But I guarantee that these are always the top three, and in this order.

Chicago is 4th, and I believe the rest of the order is correct.
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:30 PM
 
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Also, what's up with those 2030 projections? No one knows ridership decades into the future.

And some of those projections are ridiculous. Look at the MBTA projection. They've already expanded massively, onto basically every available rail line, yet their ridership has grown slowly.

Why would they suddenly have a 500% increase in ridership? They don't even have anywhere to expand, and the region isn't growing.

And the Philly numbers are even crazier. The system only serves electric lines, and there are no serious plans to add very expensive additional electric lines. And all the major lines into Philly already have passenger rail.

And Regional Rail ridership has been flat for essentially decades. Why would it skyrocket?

The only one I agree with is NJ Transit. It will eventually have the highest ridership, but the state first needs a new Governor.
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Also, what's up with those 2030 projections? No one knows ridership decades into the future.

And some of those projections are ridiculous. Look at the MBTA projection. They've already expanded massively, onto basically every available rail line, yet their ridership has grown slowly.

Why would they suddenly have a 500% increase in ridership? They don't even have anywhere to expand, and the region isn't growing.

And the Philly numbers are even crazier. The system only serves electric lines, and there are no serious plans to add very expensive additional electric lines. And all the major lines into Philly already have passenger rail.

And Regional Rail ridership has been flat for essentially decades. Why would it skyrocket?

The only one I agree with is NJ Transit. It will eventually have the highest ridership, but the state first needs a new Governor.
Yet YOU can predict population loss for Chicago, job loss for Chicago, and Chicago's pending asteroid impact.
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:55 PM
 
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Yet YOU can predict population loss for Chicago, job loss for Chicago, and Chicago's pending asteroid impact.
Stop wasting everyone's time with your third-grade level personal attacks. You're way out of your league.

I post official CENSUS data and FEDERAL RESERVE data and you don't like it.

"Gee, the Census must not like Chicago, or maybe Obama is fudging the numbers, or, or..."
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