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That seems to be all you do, laugh at other people for failing to see how right you are. For some reason, some people just don't see the same thing you do in those purple blob maps.
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair
LOL...your the one suddenly trying to simultaneously extol the virtues of low density suburbia while delegitimizing higher density suburbia, but Im the one trying to make a drink look larger.
That seems to be all you do, laugh at other people for failing to see how right you are. For some reason, some people just don't see the same thing you do in those purple blob maps.
Oh no, we all see the same thing, except your saying that 1,000+persons per square mile is a better gage of size than 5,000+persons per square mile, and I believe just the opposite.
I can drive around philly in any direction for miles and miles and still feel you're in a metropolis, this is the main difference between Philly and SF.
To Scale Maps showing the principal clusters of 5,000+ppsm of the following cities:
Washington D.C. may be the only city other than NYC that has focused its density along transit corridors. Low density remains in non-transit corridors. This map shows that more than ever when taking into account the Metro lines and where density is located across the metro. The Silver Metro Line will be the final piece integrating density around transit. Looking at that map and where development is explains why we have about 1,000,000 people riding Metro daily. That's where they live and with future development being concentrated along Metro Lines region wide, ridership will continue to rise especially since DC gives you the option to live without a car way into the suburbs unlike commuter rail suburbs in other cites.
Last edited by MDAllstar; 08-24-2011 at 01:58 PM..
I can drive around philly in any direction for miles and miles and still feel you're in a metropolis
There is no arguing that Philadelphia proper is larger than SF proper. That is a given.
But you mention driving---well, if you drove from one end to another of the respective contiguous clusters of 5,000+ persons per square mile in each area, the drive in the Bay Area would be almost twice as long.
Woodlyne, PA to Bristol, PA 35.7: Miles vs. Richmond, CA to McKean Rd, San Jose, CA: 70.9 Miles
Washington D.C. may be the only city other than NYC that has focused its density along transit corridors. Low density remains in non-transit corridors. This map shows that more than ever when taking into account the Metro lines and where density is located across the metro. The Silver Metro Line will be the final piece integrating density around transit. Looking at that map and where development is explains why we have about 1,000,000 people riding Metro daily. That's where they live and with future development being concentrated along Metro Lines region wide, ridership will continue to rise especially since DC gives you the option to live without a car way into the suburbs unlike commuter rail suburbs in other cites.
I really, really, REALLY like the DC Area's TODs. Its like a bunch of downtowns and that is excellent. I wish we had the political will to replicate that here.
And you can bet the pay off in the long run will be incredible as far as helping to create more density in surrounding areas.
I really, really, REALLY like the DC Area's TODs. Its like a bunch of downtowns and that is excellent. I wish we had the political will to replicate that here.
And you can bet the pay off in the long run will be incredible as far as helping to create more density in surrounding areas.
Thank you! I love it too. It's like the anti-sprawl. Now that the Metropolitan Council of Governments which is basically the governing development body for the region has made TOD the priority, most of the development and jobs will be located along Metro Lines now. I think it's great DC is focusing development with the region in mind to curve sprawl and pollution. We can't change the past but we can sure change the future. With the streetcar and light rail connections coming region wide, I think DC's transit numbers are going to skyrocket as more people go car-less in the region. Capital Bike Share is booming also and they are preparing to expand into the suburbs along metro lines. DC is becoming more green everyday.
Are you going to tell me with a straight face that Campbell, CA has a big city feel to you?
Campbell is not part of the 5,000+ppsm cluster.
But since you mentioned it,
Campbell, its 50 Miles from Downtown SF:
50 miles from Downtown Philadelphia looks like is this:
And that's being generous.
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