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View Poll Results: More international?
Houston 19 16.67%
Chicago 95 83.33%
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:52 AM
 
Location: The City
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For what its worth; the Index of International Commerce ranks US cities as follows:

NYC 72.77
Chicago 65.24
LA 55.73
Philadelphia 55.55
Boston 54.10
Atlanta 52.56
San Francisco 52.39
Miami 52.33
Houston 51.30
Dallas 51.25
DC 51.19

http://www.mastercard.com/us/company...eport_2008.pdf
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:59 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Even the Houstonians are admitting that it's Chicago by a landslide.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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For what its worth; the Index of International Commerce ranks US cities as follows:

NYC 72.77
Chicago 65.24
LA 55.73
Philadelphia 55.55
Boston 54.10
Atlanta 52.56
San Francisco 52.39
Miami 52.33
Houston 51.30
Dallas 51.25
DC 51.19

http://www.mastercard.com/us/company...eport_2008.pdf
Many of their criteria have nothing to do with how international a city is but simply how much effect it has on the global economy (and some categories don't even do that). I agree Chicago is still the bigger city with a bigger impact in the world but I don't agree that it is more international. That index also gives weights to criteria that really plays into any city that has port, air, research universities and most of all a stock exchange. The biggest indicator on there should be (4) Financial Flow but its exclusively referring to banking and stock markets. That's why DC is ranked lower than some of those other cities. Its more international on most account than Dallas and Atlanta and arguably some of the others too but its not an international busines and economic hub.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:14 AM
 
Location: The City
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Many of their criteria have nothing to do with how international a city is but simply how much effect it has on the global economy (and some categories don't even do that). I agree Chicago is still the bigger city with a bigger impact in the world but I don't agree that it is more international. That index also gives weights to criteria that really plays into any city that has port, air, research universities and most of all a stock exchange. The biggest indicator on there should be (4) Financial Flow but its exclusively referring to banking and stock markets. That's why DC is ranked lower than some of those other cities. Its more international on most account than Dallas and Atlanta and arguably some of the others too but its not an international busines and economic hub.

Not disagreeing with most of your points; just another piece of info though
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:59 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Me too. Miami was actually my first thought when thinking about a city as a "gateway" destination to South America.
Miami is the largest South American gateway. But that is only if you fly American Airlines or some South American operated carrier. If you were flying Delta, United, or until recently Continental then you wouldn't go through Miami.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:05 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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For what its worth; the Index of International Commerce ranks US cities as follows:

NYC 72.77
Chicago 65.24
LA 55.73
Philadelphia 55.55
Boston 54.10
Atlanta 52.56
San Francisco 52.39
Miami 52.33
Houston 51.30
Dallas 51.25
DC 51.19

http://www.mastercard.com/us/company...eport_2008.pdf
Am I right to assume that these are city propers? If so, I am surprised that San Francisco is ahead of Houston given the sheer size of Houston.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:14 AM
 
Location: The City
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Am I right to assume that these are city propers? If so, I am surprised that San Francisco is ahead of Houston given the sheer size of Houston.

Am almost positive is the region not just city borders

After NYC and Chicago the ranking for the next 9 US cities are all very close; little differences actually
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:22 AM
 
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well chicago is more international in almost every category, but they don't have to be nasty about it.
The more I hear about Houston -- from people who live there, visitors, etc. -- the more I realize it's not just a hot, backwards, Southern sprawler. It's actually a pretty hip, international city with vital industries and unique cosmopolitan neighborhoods and things to do.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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The more I hear about Houston -- from people who live there, visitors, etc. -- the more I realize it's not just a hot, backwards, Southern sprawler. It's actually a pretty hip, international city with vital industries and unique cosmopolitan neighborhoods and things to do.
YEP, Houston just needs a P.R. campiagn. Well It doesn't need one, but for discussion sake... Houston is stereo typed as what you mentioned... For the people who live here or have spent a lot of time here know it's far different from how it's portrayed... Don't get me wrong... There are Southern/Sprawling elements that fit the mold, But Houston is SOOO much more than that.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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As far as this thread, at least image wise... Chicago by a landslide and I'm from Houston.... once you get down into what makes a city international perhaps the cities stack up more closely... But you know what they say, "Perception is Reality" so Chicago by far.....
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