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Old 10-31-2012, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Great info.. I see a decrease but Maryland still #4.

DC has only had 74 murders as of today October 31, 2012. That is a -21% drop from last year which had 94 murders by last October 31, 2011.
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Old 10-31-2012, 03:55 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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New Hampshire, Utah, Washington, Oregon, Montana, Idaho, South Dakota also have the death penalty and have some of the lowest murder rates in the country, #2, #8, #10, etc.
You can not take just one factor, try to correlate it to murder rates and have any kind of valid argument.
New Hampshire has the death penalty on the books but it doesn't really use it. Last execution in 1939.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:01 PM
 
Location: The City
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New Hampshire has the death penalty on the books but it doesn't really use it. Last execution in 1939.

to that end PA has excuted people fairly recently and falls well above those. In all honesty this is likely a combination of poverty and some high rates in impoverished city and rural town nabes driving much of these stats. Looking at a state level seems pretty broad
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:06 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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to that end PA has excuted people fairly recently and falls well above those. In all honesty this is likely a combination of poverty and some high rates in impoverished city and rural town nabes driving much of these stats. Looking at a state level seems pretty broad
I was surprised to know PA has the death penalty, assumed it wasn't used in the northeast.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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New Hampshire, Utah, Washington, Oregon, Montana, Idaho, South Dakota also have the death penalty and have some of the lowest murder rates in the country, #2, #8, #10, etc.
You can not take just one factor, try to correlate it to murder rates and have any kind of valid argument.
Thank ya. Because people get on my last nerve riding a crusade against death penalty. Most of the monsters that are evil enough to commit the types of crimes that carry a penalty as severe as death deserve it.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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It's the heat I tell ya! Also they have younger populations as well.
Yes LAWD! Any place that stays warm most of the year is guaranteed to have nutty people. Come to Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Louisiana, et al, during the summer and you'll realize this. This is also reflected in the fact that the Sunbelt has the highest crime rates, as opposed to the northern line from Seattle to Augusta, ME which has the lowest.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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Interesting stats, but IMO it doesn't mean much in the real world since crime rates are better understood within a more local context than a large entity such as a state.

For example, California's murder rate is around the national average (4.8 vs. 4.7)..it doesn't mean that all areas within the state are going to be the average. There is a WORLD of difference between Richmond, CA (one of the top 10 dangerous places in the US) and Mission Viejo, CA (one of the top 10 safest places in the US)
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:03 PM
 
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Now that the FBI released its annual crime report, this is what the 2011 map looks like:

http://i.imgur.com/mEDZk.png

And here's the 2010 map for comparison purposes:

http://i.imgur.com/buRhs.png

The overall national rate dipped a bit, led by declines in Texas and Virginia, even though the number of states in which rates held steady or edged up seems to be greater than those which saw reductions.
I graduated from college with a degree in Geography(July 2012), and I had some courses in GIS. This is actually interesting to me. I use ArcGIS for the maps I make, so I'm wondering what program the cartographer used for these maps.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:17 PM
 
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New Hampshire, Utah, Washington, Oregon, Montana, Idaho, South Dakota also have the death penalty and have some of the lowest murder rates in the country, #2, #8, #10, etc.
You can not take just one factor, try to correlate it to murder rates and have any kind of valid argument.
Missouri, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina, Maryland, Arizona, and Tennessee also have the death penalty and they have higher murder rates than the states you have mentioned.

Minnesota, New Hampshire, Hawaii, Maine, Iowa,Vermont,and Rhode Island have among the lowest murder rates in the USA and none of them have the death penalty. New Hampshire hasn't used the death penalty in a very long time.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:30 PM
 
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I wonder why a good number of southern states: South Carolina, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee for example, have higher murder rates per capita than some northern states.
The southern states have historically had a higher murder rate than the northern states, even as early as the Antebellum days.

The Collapse of American Criminal Justice - William J. Stuntz - Google Books
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