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In terms of choice riders I still feel Chicago is higher than DC, you are really selling Chicago short. Chicago also has a HUGE population of choice bus riders. The north side of Chicago, is the second most urban area in te country and has a great deal of wealth, it's not the poor riding there.
As a percentage of population dc is clearly ahead.
DC has about 400,000 less total transit riders than Chicago. DC has about 4 million less people than Chicago. How can you say Chicago has more choice riders?
In terms of choice riders I still feel Chicago is higher than DC, you are really selling Chicago short. Chicago also has a HUGE population of choice bus riders. The north side of Chicago, is the second most urban area in te country and has a great deal of wealth, it's not the poor riding there.
As a percentage of population dc is clearly ahead.
Yes considering all D.C. really has is buses and rail and Chicago has a HUGE RAIL, trollys and major bus system, and even boats did i mention that with the transit in chicago they have CTA, metra and armack and of course the train.
In terms of choice riders I still feel Chicago is higher than DC, you are really selling Chicago short. Chicago also has a HUGE population of choice bus riders. The north side of Chicago, is the second most urban area in te country and has a great deal of wealth, it's not the poor riding there.
As a percentage of population dc is clearly ahead.
American Public Transportation Report For Rail
Q2 2012 Subway Ridership
D.C. Metro Ridership = 1,027,600 daily riders
Chicago EL' Ridership = 737,900 daily riders
Q2 2012 Commuter Rail Ridership
DC MARC Ridership = 36,100 daily riders
DC VRE Ridership = 19,200 daily riders (Q4 2011)
Chicago Metra Ridership = 303,800 daily riders
Total City Rail Ridership
#1 DC Total Rail Ridership =1,082,900 daily riders **(metro area population = 5,703,948)**
#2 Chicago Total Rail Ridership = 1,041,700 daily riders **(metro area population = 9,461,105)**
Q2 2012 Bus Ridership
DC WMATA Bus System = 440,900 daily riders
DC RIDE ON Bus System = 89,800 daily riders
DC Connector Bus System = 39,200 daily riders
Chicago CTA Bus System = 995,000 daily riders
Chicago PACE Bus System = 108,900 daily riders
Total City Bus Ridership
#1 DC Total Bus Ridership =569,900 daily riders **(metro area population = 5,703,948)**
#2 Chicago Total Bus Ridership = 1,103,900 daily riders **(metro area population = 9,461,105)**
Unlike the DC area, only Chicago limits has access to CTA both rail and bus (except for a very few places directly outside the city limits). Using MSA numbers is sort of meaningless.
I'm still not convinced DC has more choice riders, even if every transit rider in DC was a choice rider it is still a decent amount less than Chicago.
This is a good list for rapid transit only (I would assume for LA you are including the LRT). Although I'm not sure Atlanta's system is busier than Los Angeles'. Boston's T is always really busy, particularly the Green Line - but to compare it with LA, the other system I am familiar with, the buses get nowhere near as busy. Including the bus systems is where LA really catches up to the pack (and where Chicago puts itself in the lead).
Atlanta's heavy rail system has a daily ridership of 223,000 compared to Los Angeles' 155,000, though the system in LA probably would seem busier because it is significantly smaller than MARTA.
Unlike the DC area, only Chicago limits has access to CTA both rail and bus (except for a very few places directly outside the city limits). Using MSA numbers is sort of meaningless.
I'm still not convinced DC has more choice riders, even if every transit rider in DC was a choice rider it is still a decent amount less than Chicago.
I am almost certain Chicago serves a greater percentage of their population by CTA than DC does with WMATA. DC's WMATA serves about 2 million people. Infact, when you really take into account the small area covered by Metro, it's even more staggering that Metro has over 1 million riders while serving such a tiny population.
In terms of choice riders I still feel Chicago is higher than DC, you are really selling Chicago short. Chicago also has a HUGE population of choice bus riders. The north side of Chicago, is the second most urban area in te country and has a great deal of wealth, it's not the poor riding there.
As a percentage of population dc is clearly ahead.
I feel you are selling the whole city of Chicago short. The transit is taken seriously on the South Side as well.
I am almost certain Chicago serves a greater percentage of their population by CTA than DC does with WMATA. DC's WMATA serves about 2 million people.
I don't know exact numbers, but Chicago proper is 2.7M, I would guess roughly 200-300k are serviced outside the city. So roughly 3M total.
Obviously Chicagoland is much larger than greater Washington, but the CTA does nothing for people in dupage, lake, will and a good portion of cook county. While those counties have access to metra, I think we can agree most if not all metra riders are choice riders.
Atlanta's heavy rail system has a daily ridership of 223,000 compared to Los Angeles' 155,000, though the system in LA probably would seem busier because it is significantly smaller than MARTA.
When you add in the LRT, which is seamlessly part of the transit system, LA's rail ridership is quite a bit larger than Atlanta's.
I feel you are selling the whole city of Chicago short. The transit is taken seriously on the South Side as well.
Right but as a percentage it trails the north side by a good amount.
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