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LOL seriously? Aren't you from Chicago or am I mistaken?
It's a huge music festival (rock (alternative, psychadelic, and hard rock usually), hip-hop/rap, and electronica) that has existed since the early 90s. Up until 2005 it was a tour (like Warped Tour for example) but since 2005 it's been at Grant Park in Chicago. 2011 they expanded to Chile and Brazil and this year to Israel (though it was cancelled). It was started by Perry Ferrel of Jane's Addiction.
Last year the main one in Chicago drew 270,000 people. I have met people from all over the world who come to Chicago for it. It's 3 days and there's 8 stages and usually considered one of the top 10 or 15 music festivals in the world.
Some of the bands that have played it since 2005 just in Chicago include:
Red Hot Chili Peppers, Soundgarden, Green Day, Pearl Jam, Radiohead, Rage Against the Machine, Foo Fighters, Coldplay, Depeche Mode, Lady Gaga, Snoop Dogg, Eminem, Kanye West, Atmosphere, Cypress Hill, Nas, Daft Punk, Black Sabbath, Tool, A Perfect Circle, Nine Inch Nails, Muse, Jane's Addiction, Deftones, Thievery Corporation, Iggy Pop, Sonic Youth, The Flaiming Lips, Florence + The Machine, The Black Keys, Lou Reed, Billy Idol, Weezer, The Verve Pipe, Liz Phair, Pixies, Gnarls Barkley, The Shins, Wilco, Blues Traveler, Modest Mouse, Amy Winehouse, Snow Patrol, Erykah Badu, The Cars, Ween, The Wailers (i.e. Bob Marley's former band), Patti Smith, Lupe Fiasco, Coheed and Cambria, Deadmau5, Skrillex, MSTRKRFT, Afrojack, Pretty Lights, Justice, Sigur Ros, Jack White
and many, many more. Then this year they'll be adding such ones like Nine Inch Nails, The Cure, New Order, Steve Aoki, Steve Angello, Ellie Goulding, Thievery Corporation, etc.
Only 10% of those 33,000 sq miles populated. That is fact.
You should refrain from talking smack about L.A. using statistics considering it is the most densely populated urbanized area in the U.S., AND the most populous of the three cities in this comparison.
Saying Los Angeles is the densest urban area in the U.S. is a Flawed statistic. Jacksonville has more people than Boston, DC or SF But we all know the least urban of the four is jax.
The urban density stat is a joke and is flawed. Urban density is defined By continuous development WITHOUT stopping. LA has medium density over 1000's of Square miles without getting rural. Honestly, who even knows where their DT is? LA is just like 10,000 sq miles with the same continuous density.
Again, when the LA CSA hits 20 million they will be the ONLY hyper city in the first world without an efficient subway system.
I started this thread because of a debate with a friend over lunch. LA is clearly the least urban of the three considering they are going to be a so called hyper city without a efficient subway system. LA will also be the only hyper city in the world to feel like a mega city city, took a whopping 33,000 square miles to get 20 million people lol.
When will it become a hyper-city? If it needs to reach 20 million to do so it may be a few decades off... By then the subway system may be pretty efficient.
Only 10% of those 33,000 sq miles populated. That is fact. So really, its 18 million people living in 3,300 sq miles or so.
You should refrain from talking smack about L.A. using statistics considering it is the most densely populated urbanized area in the U.S., AND the most populous of the three cities in this comparison.
If it does bother you, then you can easily restrict it to how many square miles it'd take to reach Chicagoland's 9.8 million or so population which would be 10,856 square miles. The easiest thing to do is to take just Los Angeles County alone despite the fact that its northern half is basically unpopulated save for the relatively small Antelope Valley. LA County is about 10 million people in 4,060 square miles. So, that was pretty straightforward. Just for giggles, you can take Orange County at 3 million in 790 square miles and add that in. And you'd get get 13 million for Los Angles to almost 10 million for Chicago in less than half the area.
It might have escaped you, but the way the metro is done by counties, so if the vast majority of that figure you're citing is San Bernardino and Riverside County where the majority of those massive counties are uninhabited desert, then the stats will be skewed accordingly.
I'd agree that LA is the least urban, but it's not off of Toronto or Chicago by much.
You can do the same math for almost every metopolitan area in the country. It's common knowledge. Chicago has a little over 9 million people in less than 3,000 square miles.
Saying Los Angeles is the densest urban area in the U.S. is a Flawed statistic. Jacksonville has more people than Boston, DC or SF But we all know the least urban of the four is jax.
The urban density stat is a joke and is flawed. Urban density is defined By continuous development WITHOUT stopping. LA has medium density over 1000's of Square miles without a core. Honestly, who even knows where their DT is?
Again, when the LA CSAhits 20 million they will be the ONLY hyper city in the first world without an efficient subway system.
If the stats are so flawed, then why would the CSA hitting 20 million matter and how would it make it a real hyper city? That doesn't make much sense. If it's flawed, then it's not really hitting 20 million. If 20 million is what it needs to be for a hypercity, and LA isn't really hitting 20 million because the stats being run are flawed, then LA isn't getting to be a hypercity anytime soon. Under that premise, then it's likely that LA will actually have a decent subway system by the time it really hits 20 million.
It's pretty easy to figure out downtown, you can google it but if you're in the area pretty much anyone there can tell you how to get there if you ask.
You can do the same math for almost every metopolitan area in the country. It's common knowledge. Chicago has a little over 9 million people in less than 3,000 square miles.
Yea, pretty much. Which is why I pointed out that it's by the county system and it doesn't help very much.
Going by urban area makes a lot more sense, but that still has is flaws.
These are all pretty local except for TIFF though which has a much higher international profile than the other things you've mentioned.
I consider Caribana to be an international event. Only Trinidad, Notting Hill, Eastern Parkway and Crop Over (the Big Four) draw more international tourists.
The biggest problem with Caribana is that it overlaps with Crop Over :steups: Who wants to be in Canada when you can lime on a hot, white beach?
If the stats are so flawed, then why would the CSA hitting 20 million matter and how would it make it a real hyper city? That doesn't make much sense. If it's flawed, then it's not really hitting 20 million. If 20 million is what it needs to be for a hypercity, and LA isn't really hitting 20 million because the stats being run are flawed, then LA isn't getting to be a hypercity anytime soon. Under that premise, then it's likely that LA will actually have a decent subway system by the time it really hits 20 million.
It's pretty easy to figure out downtown, you can google it but if you're in the area pretty much anyone there can tell you how to get there if you ask.
The biggest problem with Caribana is that it overlaps with Crop Over :steups:Who wants to be in Canada when you can lime on a hot, white beach?
Agreed..no offense to Toronto
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Who wants to be in Canada when you can lime on a hot, white beach?
