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Old 06-21-2013, 01:59 PM
 
Location: So California
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Well they are all related. The # is from another article direct from the National Park Service, it's actually 96%, see below. Just that park alone used to be 2 million acres, it's now 138,000, that is just one park of many. America in general has been bad about conservation, but I think what made conservation currently so strong in California is that we were destroying really beautiful landscapes instead of a flat forest of pine trees. California is certainly now a leader on this front. Florida is way behind.

Frequently Asked Questions - Redwood National and State Parks

How many redwoods have been logged? 96 percent of the original old-growth coast redwoods have been logged.

Yeah, conservation is a good thing. Theres been tons of replanting in those areas, so its not totally decimated like that number sounds. Old growth were the sought after trees, leaving the younger ones, but those trees take so long to mature it is for future generations...
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Yeah, there's a big difference in the construction. Take a look at La Jolla in San Diego:

Because California has all these hills, they have places to put their shops, restaurants and neighborhoods without crowding the beaches. Thus, the natural scenery is often left somewhat untouched. Florida is more flat and swampy, so they had to build, in many cases, right on the water. Look at West Palm Beach:


California's beachgoers do have a different attitude than South Florida's beachgoers, but I'd also say it's a geography thing.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:37 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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The only reason why Florida is a springs break destination is because yo ACTUALLY enjoy the beach during the early spring. Panama city yes is the spring break capitol of the world, and yes Miami is known for its partying, But Daytona is far from the spring break destination it used to be years ago. For you who say California is family oriented WTF have you been drinking on? Nothing beats the West coast of Florida beaches for he whole family it doesn't get more laid back and family oriented than that. The water doesn't get deep for miles out so there isn't much worrying about the kids. Not saying that the beaches, and beach culture isn't great in California it just isn't on par with Florida. I'm pretty sure this was proved in the last poll though.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:49 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Yeah, there's a big difference in the construction. Take a look at La Jolla in San Diego:

Because California has all these hills, they have places to put their shops, restaurants and neighborhoods without crowding the beaches. Thus, the natural scenery is often left somewhat untouched. Florida is more flat and swampy, so they had to build, in many cases, right on the water. Look at West Palm Beach:


California's beachgoers do have a different attitude than South Florida's beachgoers, but I'd also say it's a geography thing.
Yeah people forget that almost all of the good beaches in FL are basically on a barrier island or peninsula...

Panama City, Ft Walton, Destin, Pensacola, St Pete Beach, Bradenton, Sarasota, Clearwater Beach, Marco Island, Boca Raton, Ft Lauderdale, Miami Beach, Vero Beach, Cocoa Beach, Jupiter, Palm Bay, Daytona

all islands/peninsulas, there is water on the other side also behind you.

It's true all the way from Miami area where you posted all the way up to North FL and Destin, just narrow strips of land we are talking about, and a lot of it is dunes that hold the island together that you can't build on making the only place to build is past the sand dunes right up next to the beach. Most of Florida is basically at sea level and the only thing under it is porous limestone with springs/tunnels.

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Old 06-21-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Also, The reason why the beaches in Florida are more built up is because Florida has always been known to Americans as A tourist destination. People actually went to California to live, and Work not to vacation. IMO the best beaches in Florida are the state parks winch have no development on them. It does suck that most people wont get to see the very natural beautiful Florida beaches that is now built up with either mansion, or hotels. California has twice the population, and twice the size. If it was a perfect world and Florida, and California were the same size there would be over fifty million people in Florida.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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^^ yup to the last 2 posts
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:19 PM
 
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Yeah, there's a big difference in the construction. Take a look at La Jolla in San Diego:

Because California has all these hills, they have places to put their shops, restaurants and neighborhoods without crowding the beaches. Thus, the natural scenery is often left somewhat untouched. Florida is more flat and swampy, so they had to build, in many cases, right on the water. Look at West Palm Beach:


California's beachgoers do have a different attitude than South Florida's beachgoers, but I'd also say it's a geography thing.
A lot of East Coast beaches actually rest on barrier islands, so it's pretty common to see that. Few beaches in states like Florida, NJ, or NY for example, are actually attached to the rest of the land, if you will.
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Old 06-21-2013, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Also, The reason why the beaches in Florida are more built up is because Florida has always been known to Americans as A tourist destination. People actually went to California to live, and Work not to vacation. IMO the best beaches in Florida are the state parks winch have no development on them. It does suck that most people wont get to see the very natural beautiful Florida beaches that is now built up with either mansion, or hotels. California has twice the population, and twice the size. If it was a perfect world and Florida, and California were the same size there would be over fifty million people in Florida.
Well lots of people do vacation in California. On top of all the tourist attractions, it has nice weather, is beautiful, and has some of the best beaches in the country.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:16 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Well lots of people do vacation in California. On top of all the tourist attractions, it has nice weather, is beautiful, and has some of the best beaches in the country.
Yeah, now. He is talking historically. Florida was vacationland for many of the population hubs. California is where people moved for a new beginning.
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Old 06-22-2013, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Ah, I see.
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