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Old 04-18-2014, 07:49 AM
 
Location: The City
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I always find myself rooting for Detroit. Im hoping for a great comeback!
yes me too

I think it would be ironic if new transit manufacturing brought the city back with new jobs
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Old 04-18-2014, 07:54 AM
 
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I'd like to see Cleveland make a comeback, and I'd definitely love to see Detroit rise from the ashes, but more than anything I want my hometown (St. Louis) to make a comeback. IMO St. Louis is completely underrated and has the capability to be a fantastic city with a bright future, like a Minneapolis crossed with Atlanta. And I think that comeback has already started, what with all the loft development downtown and renovations going on across the city.
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Old 04-18-2014, 07:54 AM
 
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I agree.....To be honest, Philadelphia has at worst, has held steady.
steady no in total but sort of but two factors; HH size and some flight and abandonment of neighborhoods led to the declines and some areas of Philly are pretty decimated today

Here is a blog from a poster on the site with some info

SW Ontario Urbanist: Densities of Montreal and Philadelphia in 1950
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Old 04-18-2014, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Most people are surprised to find that Boston and DC lost nearly the same as Philly as a total percentage of population.

St. Louis, Cleveland and Pittsburgh feel like they're coming back already. Detroit needs to and I do hope Buffalo does as well.
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:01 AM
 
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more comparisons here if you scroll down

SW Ontario Urbanist: More 1950 to 2010 comparisons
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:08 AM
 
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steady no in total but sort of but two factors; HH size and some flight and abandonment of neighborhoods led to the declines and some areas of Philly are pretty decimated today

Here is a blog from a poster on the site with some info

SW Ontario Urbanist: Densities of Montreal and Philadelphia in 1950
This kind of gets into my point about annexation or the lack thereof. Montreal for example has amalgamated certain areas into its city. So, that is a part of the reason behind its city growth, whereas Philadelphia probably hasn't annexed anything in around a century. This is a common theme among "older" cities, especially in the Northeast and Midwest. Just to use the area I live in(Syracuse) as an example, if it annexed the adjacent towns that touch the city, the population would be about 20-25,000 higher than the peak population(around 240-245,000) and to put it into perspective, it would still be 3 square miles smaller than Raleigh, NC in land area. This is why I say that it is a factor that people have to keep in mind, as not all cities are the same in this regard.
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:16 AM
 
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Buffalo and Detroit
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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The census shows Memphis growing, but that's only because it's annexed a lot of land- if you looked at the original boundaries Memphis' population is declining big time. It's sad because the aquifer could support so many more people, and living there even Beale Street was dead at any given time of the day. I wish Memphis were as dense as San Francisco or New York; it's too suburban for its own good.
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Old 04-18-2014, 09:42 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Baltimore is slowly coming back.
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Old 04-18-2014, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Detroit probably #1, and St. Louis. I'll root for any city really as long as it spells positive economic growth.
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