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View Poll Results: Which metro area is a better place to live?
Detroit Metro Area 55 53.92%
Phoenix Metro Area 47 46.08%
Voters: 102. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-26-2014, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Detroit is going on a hiring binge right now due to the brain drain of the economic recession. Quicken Loans is not the only company hiring. Ford, GM, and Chrysler are on a better financial footing right now and are hiring. Automotive suppliers are starting to hire as well.

The OP asked about the metro area and not the central cities. Comparing cities, Phoenix wins hands down. Comparing metro areas it's pretty even.

I believe that the summers in the Phoenix area and the winters in the Detroit area wear on you over time. Every summer in the Phoenix area feels more miserable than the summer before. Every winter in the Detroit area also feels more miserable than the winter before.

Phoenix does have better roads and a better nightlife scene. I agree that Sports teams are pretty equal.
A hiring binge? Does that mean that young, talented people are fleeing the area and employers are desperate to hire more young talent? That's discouraging. Why would I want to move somewhere that people are fleeing? Kind of depressing.
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Old 08-26-2014, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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People were fleeing in droves during the recession and even before the recession (many to Phoenix, in fact). Remember the auto company bankruptcies? That contributed in large part to the shrinking of Detroit's economy. Every other day, people were getting laid off in the thousands. Now that the auto industry has seemingly righted itself and with car sales back up, the demand for new hires has jumped. The car companies haven't been doing this well since the 90s.

Though the difference this time around is that most of the job openings are in STEM fields. Before, most of the jobs were on the production side. For quite a while, young people in Detroit were discouraged from going into the auto industry (everyone pretty much knew the companies were headed towards a cliff). "Factory jobs are gone" they said. Since the bankruptcies, everything has done a 180 and now Michigan is encouraging graduates to get into manufacturing. Of course now supply has yet to catch up to demand and Detroit (as well as Michigan in general) has a slight hiring deficit.
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Old 08-26-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Louisville
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A hiring binge? Does that mean that young, talented people are fleeing the area and employers are desperate to hire more young talent? That's discouraging. Why would I want to move somewhere that people are fleeing? Kind of depressing.
Actually young talented people are being recruited to the state, being attracted by the high paying jobs and low cost of living. After the restructure of the automotive industry, all three automakers, as well as the foreign ones who have their tech centers in the state are on fire. Expanding like crazy and can't keep up with demand. Which translates to the army of tier 1 2 and 3 suppliers as well, which are often Fortune 500 companies in their own rights. It has everything to do with expansion, and nothing to do with "young, talented people fleeing the area".
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Old 08-26-2014, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Louisville
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Maybe he's going to use that extra $500 to buy a home in Detroit. j/k
He'd have to win it at least twice to pay for the taxes
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Old 08-26-2014, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Actually young talented people are being recruited to the state, being attracted by the high paying jobs and low cost of living. After the restructure of the automotive industry, all three automakers, as well as the foreign ones who have their tech centers in the state are on fire. Expanding like crazy and can't keep up with demand. Which translates to the army of tier 1 2 and 3 suppliers as well, which are often Fortune 500 companies in their own rights. It has everything to do with expansion, and nothing to do with "young, talented people fleeing the area".
Well, I am going to speak with the recruiter in an hour or so and get more details on the opportunity. Then maybe I'll have a more focused level of interest or disinterest.
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Old 08-26-2014, 08:43 PM
 
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I gotta agree with DesertSW and mjlo. This thread is suspect. I mean, the OP's reason for comparing Detroit and Phoenix is that they're both grid cities.
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Old 08-26-2014, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Rochester, NY
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LOL, just LOL.
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Old 08-26-2014, 09:09 PM
 
Location: your mom
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Detroit is super run down and crime riddled, really not the place you would want to live.



Just googling up Detroit will give you pictures of crumbled down buildings.


Even though Phoenix might not have the best downtown, it is certainly better overall.
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Old 08-26-2014, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Detroit is super run down and crime riddled, really not the place you would want to live.



Just googling up Detroit will give you pictures of crumbled down buildings.


Even though Phoenix might not have the best downtown, it is certainly better overall.
This thread isn't about city vs. city. It's about metro vs. metro.
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Old 08-27-2014, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Detroit is super run down and crime riddled, really not the place you would want to live.

Just googling up Detroit will give you pictures of crumbled down buildings.


Even though Phoenix might not have the best downtown, it is certainly better overall.
Which is I'm sure all you've ever done in regards to Detroit.

Look, this is clearly a troll thread and I'm not touching that poll. But Detroit is an underrated city on a slow upswing. Phoenix, to me personally, would be the worst major metro in the country to live. The weather is the opposite of what I like, the layout is the opposite of what I like, the region has never called my name and the culture is faceless. For most people, they'll easily take Phoenix, but for me and I'm sure a small % of people, I'd much rather live in Detroit. Great people there, too, already have a bunch of friends in the D.
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