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Philly to me will always be the cool quiet kid, that continues to do it's own thing despite the talk on the town. This atmosphere has allowed many different types of people, especially artists and entrepreneurs, to thrive here. Too much growth and change in COL is the anti-thesis of a stable deep-rooted community-of which Philly has a plethora.
I agree with that view of Philly! Everything that world cities are trying to do today, we have already done. He have already been the largest city in the U.S. (New York), we have already been the head of government (D.C.), we have already been the manufacturing "Workshop of the World" (Chicago), we have already been the financial capital (New York), and we have already been a trade capital (New York, L.A.) before many of these cities were even founded. Hell, if the Global Cities Index would have been around in the 17th/18th/19th century, Philly would have possibly ranged from Alpha (during the age of "Workshop of the World") to Alpha ++ (when Philadelphia was the second most important city in the British Empire). We have mastered things, such as open spaces and rail transportation historically. Recently, we have mastered gentrification and preserving historic structures (Society Hill).
Sure, I'll be the first to admit that we declined pretty badly in the 20th century; however, we are picking up that slack now more than ever. We have a diversified economy with particular strong suits (Eds and meds, telecommunications, broadcasting all come to mind), world-class cultural institutions, a social experience that can be matched by few other U.S. cities, and a building boom in Center City and University City. We have excellent urban bones and a top-notch public transit system. We have all the tools we need for greatness, and all we need is a group of leaders that will take us there. Not just political leaders, but business leaders and community leaders, too. Philadelphia may not be the first U.S. city that comes to mind, and may not even be world-class (although several indicators point towards the fact that we are). But mark my words, we will make it back to prominence. Yesterday's leaders could have let the city die, but instead took the challenge, revitalized areas, and now we attract more Millenials than any other city. Our population is INCREASING. Our growth may be smaller than other regions, but it is growth nonetheless. Other people are realizing that Philly is a tourism destination, too. Both domestic and international tourism is up. I have rarely heard a bad review about Philly. People just love it. I am extremely bullish of Philadelphia and the Delaware Valley right now!
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Not in variety of international traffic. Miami gets tons, but the lionshare is carribbean and S/A
Miami gets a ton from Europe too, more so than any other US city but NYC. So go cry elsewhere. Miami gets very little international traffic from the Caribbean, this shows me you don't know what you're talking about. It's actually big cities of Brazil, Venezuela, Peru, and Argentina that powers Miami's Latin numbers. Not small countries in the caribbean, most of which don't have money to fly.
Miami gets a ton from Europe too, more so than any other US city but NYC. So go cry elsewhere. Miami gets very little international traffic from the Caribbean, this shows me you don't know what you're talking about. It's actually big cities of Brazil, Venezuela, Peru, and Argentina that powers Miami's Latin numbers. Not small countries in the caribbean, most of which don't have money to fly.
Completely correct. Plus Miami has been adding international service outside SA at a very high rate in the past two years while traffic volume has soared as well. European service from South Florida that the Bay Area lacks include Barcelona, Madrid, Brussels, Helsinki (seasonal), Moscow (two carriers), Berlin, Dusseldorf, Vienna, Lisbon, Manchester, Milan, and Rome. Fastphilly focuses on Miami's lack of Asia service (which will come soon) but conveniently ignores the fact the Bay Area can't manage one logistically easier flight to South America, its Lima flight was canceled. One could say the Bay Area is basically just Asia VFR.
Miami gets a ton from Europe too, more so than any other US city but NYC. So go cry elsewhere. Miami gets very little international traffic from the Caribbean, this shows me you don't know what you're talking about. It's actually big cities of Brazil, Venezuela, Peru, and Argentina that powers Miami's Latin numbers. Not small countries in the caribbean, most of which don't have money to fly.
Let's look at the Caribbean region that has direct flights to Miami:
Aruba Airlines: Aruba
Bahamasair: Nassau
Caribbean Airlines: Port Of Spain
Cayman Airways: Cayman Brac, Grand Cayman
Copa Airlines: Panama City
GOL Airlines: Punta Cana
Insel Air: Curacao
Insel Air Aruba: Aruba
Interjet: Cancun
Lan Airlines: Punta Cana
Surinam Airways: Aruba
American Airlines: Antigua, Aruba, Barbados, Cancun, Cap-Haitien, Cozumel, Curacao, Grand Cayman, Grenada, Guatemala City, Kingston, Liberia, Managua, Montego Bay, Panama City, Point-A-Pitre, Port-Au-Prince, Port Of Spain, Providenciales, Puerto Plata, Punta Cana, Roatan, St. Croix, St. Kitts, St. Lucia, St. Maarten, St. Thomas, San José, San Pedro Sula, San Salvador, Santo Domingo
12 airlines to 33 Caribbean destinations is "Little"?? LMAO!!! How do you know if the populace is too poor to fly?? There are also cities in the South American region that have a lower income per capita than many in the Caribbean region. You seem to dispel statements when they work against your agenda.
Please prove to me that 33 locations in the region doesn't add up to hardly nothing.
Completely correct. Plus Miami has been adding international service outside SA at a very high rate in the past two years while traffic volume has soared as well. European service from South Florida that the Bay Area lacks include Barcelona, Madrid, Brussels, Helsinki (seasonal), Moscow (two carriers), Berlin, Dusseldorf, Vienna, Lisbon, Manchester, Milan, and Rome. Fastphilly focuses on Miami's lack of Asia service (which will come soon) but conveniently ignores the fact the Bay Area can't manage one logistically easier flight to South America, its Lima flight was canceled.
You can't compare South America to Asia. Asia is WAY more prominent in world affairs than South America could ever dream of. With the exception of Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires most other cities in South America are nearly irrelevant in the global economy. So enjoy your flights to Latin America cities that barely nobody outside the region knows or even cares about.
For reference there are six Asian cities that are Alpha+ (all served from SFO), In Europe only London ranks higher Alpha++ and Paris is the only other European city that ranks Alpha+ this according to the GaWC. How pathetic that only one Latin American city is Alpha (Sao Paulo) and another (Buenos Aires) is Alpha-.That's only two Alpha cities in the entire SA and CA region. As for Beta cities, One Beta+ (Santiago) and one Beta (Rio De Janeiro). After that it's not worth discussing. So your air service to many third world cities in the Caribbean, Central and South America that few outside the region know about somehow trumps trans-Pacific flights to the most relevant cities on Earth for global recognition?? LMAO!!
As for Europe, your city is much closer so it's logistically more feasible for air service from Europe than a city on the opposite coast that's a much longer flight and more expensive for a carrier to operate for logistic reasons, BUT at least we have adequate European service. It's just over 11 hours from SFO to London which is the closest European destination at 5,367 miles compared to Miami which is 4,160 and we have direct service to nine European cities. How many cities in Asia are served from Miami? Oh that's right Doha, which is far less of importance than Dubai. Emirates which is hub to an Alpha+ city (Dubai) chose Orlando over Miami so how is that for global recognition/importance? LOL!! If you look at the overall picture of global relevance that should include the entire globe San Francisco is more internationally relevant and connected. Ask any Asian overseas about Miami and all they will reference is the NBA team The Heat and that's if they are into basketball. Show them a picture of Miami Beach and they will assume it's Hawaii.
The continent of Asia has roughly 60% of the entire worlds population, the highest number of Alpha cities and an economy that's growing faster than any region on Earth. So until you get a few Asian cities on your resume this discussion is useless.
For a opposite coast city (San Francisco) that's at minimum 11 hours flight time from a continent to get nonstop foreign airline service from:
London (British, Virgin Atlantic)
Paris (Air France)
Dublin (Aer Lingus)
Frankfurt, Munich (Lufthansa)
Amsterdam (KLM)
Zurich (Swiss)
Istanbul (Turkish)
Copenhagen (SAS)
Is very good
Opposite coast service to Miami from the Far East:
Miami gets a ton from Europe too, more so than any other US city but NYC. So go cry elsewhere. Miami gets very little international traffic from the Caribbean, this shows me you don't know what you're talking about. It's actually big cities of Brazil, Venezuela, Peru, and Argentina that powers Miami's Latin numbers. Not small countries in the caribbean, most of which don't have money to fly.
Sure, but then take into consideration all other regions.
And very little is a stretch. The Caribbean is certainly not a majority of the international traffic as some people seem to be painting it to be, but the Caribbean is certainly a significant component of the traffic. On the flip side, yes, there does seem to be a lot of people who overstate this, but understating this isn't very truthful either.
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