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Old 02-26-2016, 08:21 AM
 
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Atlanta has absolutely no room to talk. I remember when someone told me about Atlantic Station, it's a outdoor mall lol.
No, it's a pretty successful mixed-use New Urbanist development but I'm not sure what the point was in bringing it up; that's not representative of traditional urbanism in Atlanta. In its core, Atlanta is more urban than Dallas but overall, it's not by a landslide. The two are more or less in the same boat.
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Old 02-26-2016, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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No, it's a pretty successful mixed-use New Urbanist development but I'm not sure what the point was in bringing it up; that's not representative of traditional urbanism in Atlanta. In its core, Atlanta is more urban than Dallas but overall, it's not by a landslide. The two are more or less in the same boat.
What's the core? The city, or some other metric (like "inner loop")?
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Old 02-26-2016, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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I think Atlanta is, but not by much.
I would say the same thing. On a very non-scientific level, I feel like Atlanta is a tad bit ahead of Dallas in its urban/walkable areas and it may be improving at a slightly faster level as well. That said, they are still in the same general tier.
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Old 02-26-2016, 09:02 AM
 
Location: DMV Area
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Atlanta has absolutely no room to talk. I remember when someone told me about Atlantic Station, it's a outdoor mall lol.
The outdoor mall only makes up one part of an overall, mixed-use project. There are also apartments and townhomes, office buildings, and a hotel that are part of that development. So you don't know what you're talking about.

However, Midtown Atlanta would be a better example of an increasingly urbanizing part of Atlanta than Atlantic Station. It's still nowhere near as urban as anywhere in the Northeast, but it's not bad for the Sunbelt (outside Los Angeles). Uptown Dallas is somewhat similar, but DART doesn't really run through there.

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Old 02-26-2016, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Atlanta has absolutely no room to talk. I remember when someone told me about Atlantic Station, it's a outdoor mall lol.
Atlanta is more urban in the core. Atlantic Station is a mixed use development. As others have said and provided evidence, your statement is false.
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Old 02-26-2016, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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What's the core? The city, or some other metric (like "inner loop")?
Basically the downtown area. In Atlanta, I assume Midtown is counted. I would say Atlanta is more urban than Dallas there. Dallas catches up when you bring in the rest of the city. So Atlanta would probably beat Dallas though it's not a runaway. Atlanta is closer to Dallas than its closer to DC.
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Old 02-26-2016, 09:57 AM
 
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What's the core? The city, or some other metric (like "inner loop")?
Downtown, Midtown, and the inner-ring neighborhoods/old streetcar suburbs.
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Old 02-26-2016, 10:20 AM
 
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Atlanta has absolutely no room to talk. I remember when someone told me about Atlantic Station, it's a outdoor mall lol.
Actually Atlantic station includes residential also along with office towers and a hotel . so I wouldn't consider it a outdoor mall. It's is own neighborhood it also blends in with the neighborhood adjacent to it.It's easy for those near Ga Tech to walk to it. . It has been a very successful development.
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Old 02-26-2016, 10:23 AM
 
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The outdoor mall only makes up one part of an overall, mixed-use project. There are also apartments and townhomes, office buildings, and a hotel that are part of that development. So you don't know what you're talking about.

However, Midtown Atlanta would be a better example of an increasingly urbanizing part of Atlanta than Atlantic Station. It's still nowhere near as urban as anywhere in the Northeast, but it's not bad for the Sunbelt (outside Los Angeles). Uptown Dallas is somewhat similar, but DART doesn't really run through there.

Agree

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Old 02-26-2016, 10:25 AM
 
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The outdoor mall only makes up one part of an overall, mixed-use project. There are also apartments and townhomes, office buildings, and a hotel that are part of that development. So you don't know what you're talking about.

However, Midtown Atlanta would be a better example of an increasingly urbanizing part of Atlanta than Atlantic Station. It's still nowhere near as urban as anywhere in the Northeast, but it's not bad for the Sunbelt (outside Los Angeles). Uptown Dallas is somewhat similar, but DART doesn't really run through there.
There are condo units and apartments above those shopping stores. When I look at Eason Town center in Columbus that's a outdoor mall not Atlantic station. That poster is sadly mistaken.

Soho in NY would be a outdoor mall to since there is residential at the top and retail at the bottom
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