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I think this is why I have such diffuculty processing C-D's "city limits are meaningless" ethos. For most of my life, the burbs were a different world. I was urban and inner-city when those were euphemisms.
The "city limits are meaningless" refrain mostly has to do with size (quantity), not built environment (quality). Municipal population is probably the least relevant metric when it comes to the true size of a place.
The "city limits are meaningless" refrain mostly has to do with size (quantity), not built environment (quality). Municipal population is probably the least relevant metric when it comes to the true size of a place.
But some people take it to an absurd degree. I've seen people argue on this forum that Baltimore and DC are the same "city" for example because they happen to share a CSA.
But some people take it to an absurd degree. I've seen people argue on this forum that Baltimore and DC are the same "city" for example because they happen to share a CSA.
Yeah that's taking it way too far. It's something of a valid argument for the Bay Area and the Research Triangle, but not DC/Baltimore.
The "city limits are meaningless" refrain mostly has to do with size (quantity), not built environment (quality). Municipal population is probably the least relevant metric when it comes to the true size of a place.
If were to just look at neighborhoods within a city's limits, then this thread and poll is "cooked" toward answering Dallas. I say this based on the areas of each city below:
Dallas: 340.5 square miles
Denver: 153 square miles
Atlanta: 133.2 square miles
Miami: 35.7 square miles
Not certain if these are updated numbers or not...
Yeah that's taking it way too far. It's something of a valid argument for the Bay Area and the Research Triangle, but not DC/Baltimore.
If I were from Oakland, I'm not so sure how I would relate to San Jose or Palo Alto.
Growing up in NYC, I considered Metro NY to be Long Island, Westchester Hudson County, NJ and maybe Fairfield and Greenwich CT. Even Newark was its own thing since it had its own sports teams and airport.
If I were from Oakland, I'm not so sure how I would relate to San Jose or Palo Alto.
Bay Area residents tend to view the region as one.
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Growing up in NYC, I considered Metro NY to be Long Island, Westchester Hudson County, NJ and maybe Fairfield and Greenwich CT. Even Newark was its own thing since it had its own sports teams and airport.
Metro NYC is an anomaly because it's so friggin' huge, but the same dynamic is in play there. It's just that Newark is more of a satellite city than a suburb.
Miami has some terrific "in town" neighborhoods that are actually very close to the city center but not within the city itself. Coral Gables is beautiful, as is Miami Shores and Mid Beach in Miami Beach. The islands in the bay are mostly not Miami as well but are spectacular. While none of the previous are in the actual city but all are very close to the city center.
Brickell is an urban city neighborhood that's quite nice and continues to be showered with new amenities over time. It's just south of downtown (across the Miami River). The Roads, just southwest of Brickell is a lovely modest neighborhood that is sandwiched between Brickell and Coral Gables. To its north, Little Havana is really coming into its own as well and proximity to the CBD is driving its development into the future.
Wynwood, to DT's north, has fashioned itself into a nationally significant arts district and finds itself the first choice of many Millennials in Miami. To its immediate north, the Design District and Buena Vista Historic District are also nice and emerging neighborhoods.
The thing I see here in Miami more than any other place I've ever lived is the rapid pace of change that happens at the neighborhood level. Given its economic fundamentals, Miami definitely way overachieves in that regard.
If were to just look at neighborhoods within a city's limits, then this thread and poll is "cooked" toward answering Dallas. I say this based on the areas of each city below:
Dallas: 340.5 square miles
Denver: 153 square miles
Atlanta: 133.2 square miles
Miami: 35.7 square miles
Not certain if these are updated numbers or not...
In a way, but I wouldn't consider neighborhoods on the fringes of the Dallas city limits to be "intown."
I'll go with "irony" in this post and enjoy it for its play on words. Miami Beach is apart from Miami, not a part of Miami.
It's cute, It's cute...
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