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Old 12-18-2016, 01:29 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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How would you rank these cities in the 1-1.5 million MSA population range in terms of things like culture, vibrancy, things to do, desirability, etc. Here is my ranking.

1. New Orleans
2. Raleigh, NC
3. Richmond
4. Louisville
5. Jacksonville
6. Birmingham
7. Memphis
8. Oklahoma City
New Orleans
Raleigh
Jacksonville
Louisville
Oklahoma City & Memphis
Richmond
Birmingham
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Old 12-19-2016, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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New Orleans
Raleigh
Louisville
Jacksonville
BIrmingham
Richmond

Oklahoma City


Memphis
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Old 12-19-2016, 09:35 AM
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Location: Miami
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1. New Orleans
2. Louisville
3. Birmingham
4. Richmond
5. Memphis
6. Raleigh
7. Jacksonville
8. Oklahoma City
Culture: New Orleans, Louisville, Birmingham, Richmond, Memphis
Vibrancy: New Orleans
Things To Do: New Orleans, Birmingham, Louisville, Richmond
Desirability: Raleigh
Food: New Orleans, Memphis, Birmingham, Louisville
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Old 12-19-2016, 12:34 PM
 
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How would you rank these cities in the 1-1.5 million MSA population range in terms of things like culture, vibrancy, things to do, desirability, etc. Here is my ranking.

1. New Orleans
2. Raleigh, NC
3. Richmond
4. Louisville
5. Jacksonville
6. Birmingham
7. Memphis
8. Oklahoma City
Most definitely

1) New Orleans
2) Louisville
3) Richmond
4) Raleigh

Huge GAP

5) Memphis
6) Jacksonville
7) Birmingham
8) Oklahoma City


The top three have by far the best arts, culture, tourism, food, drink, nightlife, etc. Raleigh makes it into that bunch due to safety, growth, education, and general economic climate. Anyone who has spent alot of time in New Orleans and Louisville, especially for their many festivals, CANNOT tell me the other cities are nearly as vibrant. NONE of these other cities have ANYTHING remotely close to Mardi Gras or Jazz Fest, or KY Derby, Thunder or Forecastle. New Orleans and Louisville both have top 5 art shows. Louisville has some of the biggest festivals in the USA, including the largest Zombie walk of all things.

The bottom 3 on this list really have much work to do in terms of vibrancy and culture, although Birmingham is making a jump.
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Old 12-19-2016, 01:50 PM
 
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NONE of these other cities have ANYTHING remotely close to Mardi Gras or Jazz Fest, or KY Derby, Thunder or Forecastle.
I'd have to disagree, at least as far as Memphis goes: Memphis In May International Festival 2017: Salutes Colombia

As a matter of fact, in terms of food, (local) culture, nightlife, and tourism, Memphis is best grouped with Richmond and Louisville. New Orleans is really in a class by itself when it comes to those things.
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:30 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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The bottom 3 on this list really have much work to do in terms of vibrancy and culture, although Birmingham is making a jump.
I think Jacksonville is underrated. It suffers from being fourth wheel in its state as well as closer ties with Georgia and the South than the rest of Florida. It can't compare to Miami or Orlando, but if you compare it with other Southern cities around its size like Birmingham, Memphis, and OKC it looks much better. I like Jacksonville personally and could live there. To me, what it lacks in vibrancy compared to major cities it makes up with its location, beaches, and natural beauty.

I haven't been to Birmingham recent years so I can't comment on the improvement happening there. Oklahoma City is dead last and you really have to get down to metros around 500,000 MSA before it starts comparing favorably.
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma City
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Most definitely

1) New Orleans
2) Louisville
3) Richmond
4) Raleigh

Huge GAP

5) Memphis
6) Jacksonville
7) Birmingham
8) Oklahoma City


The top three have by far the best arts, culture, tourism, food, drink, nightlife, etc. Raleigh makes it into that bunch due to safety, growth, education, and general economic climate. Anyone who has spent alot of time in New Orleans and Louisville, especially for their many festivals, CANNOT tell me the other cities are nearly as vibrant. NONE of these other cities have ANYTHING remotely close to Mardi Gras or Jazz Fest, or KY Derby, Thunder or Forecastle. New Orleans and Louisville both have top 5 art shows. Louisville has some of the biggest festivals in the USA, including the largest Zombie walk of all things.

The bottom 3 on this list really have much work to do in terms of vibrancy and culture, although Birmingham is making a jump.
The other seven cities don't have anything like Oklahoma City's Red Earth Festival, one of the country's top and biggest Native American festivals.
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Old 12-19-2016, 03:52 PM
 
Location: PHX
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1. New Orleans
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2. Memphis
3. Louisville
4. Richmond
5. Birmingham
6. Jacksonville
7. Raleigh
8. Oklahoma City.
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:47 PM
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Location: Miami
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I'd have to disagree, at least as far as Memphis goes: Memphis In May International Festival 2017: Salutes Colombia

As a matter of fact, in terms of food, (local) culture, nightlife, and tourism, Memphis is best grouped with Richmond and Louisville. New Orleans is really in a class by itself when it comes to those things.
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The other seven cities don't have anything like Oklahoma City's Red Earth Festival, one of the country's top and biggest Native American festivals.
To add to this, Birmingham has the Magic City Classic, Sloss Fest, and the Sidewalk Film Festival.
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:32 PM
 
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I'd have to disagree, at least as far as Memphis goes: Memphis In May International Festival 2017: Salutes Colombia

As a matter of fact, in terms of food, (local) culture, nightlife, and tourism, Memphis is best grouped with Richmond and Louisville. New Orleans is really in a class by itself when it comes to those things.
I can't disagree except Memphis just doesn't seem vibrant outside beale street, and even that was pretty ghetto on a recent visit. Everyone in Memphis is still focused on exurbs like Germantown.

I dont disagree Memphis is best grouped with Richmond and Louisville, but I think the other two have made more advances with millennial and urban growth despite Memphis being a "pro town"
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