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View Poll Results: Which city do you like best
Cleveland 27 23.68%
Columbus 14 12.28%
Pittsburgh 52 45.61%
Indianapolis 21 18.42%
Voters: 114. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-15-2011, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Northfield, MN
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Which of these medium sized mid-west (or almost mid-west) cities is the best in terms of livability, entertainment, climate, location, culture, amenities, and sports?

 
Old 08-16-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: DC
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Pittsburgh!
 
Old 08-16-2011, 09:18 AM
 
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I swear these lists are so played out. There is nothing quantitative about the criteria you listed, it's all just speculative bs.
 
Old 08-16-2011, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Northfield, MN
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Ok, so what would be better? Number of Museums per capita? Number of professional sports teams per capita? Championships per capita? How do you rate something like a city quantitatively?
 
Old 08-16-2011, 10:41 AM
 
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Ok, so what would be better? Number of Museums per capita? Number of professional sports teams per capita? Championships per capita? How do you rate something like a city quantitatively?
Quantitative things are population gain/loss, COL, City/State fiscal responsibility, Business climate (ie corp. tax rate, incentives/tax breaks given), higher education attainment. These are things that are quantifiable.

Amenities wise, cities are very similar. Take an analysis of Indy and Cleveland, both have highly rated museums, plenty of green space, restaurants, sports, etc. Now to go further into detail, Cleveland offers MLB. Me not liking baseball, will not give a city like Cleveland the benefit or added bonus for having a MLB team since I do not like it where you assuming you like baseball gives Cleveland an uptick over Indy because Cleveland has major league and Indy only has minor league. Whereas I would give Indy a tick above Cleveland for auto racing with the 500, 400 and MotoGP but you might not like them so would have no bearing one way or another for you or take away a point from Indy because you hate auto racing. I know this example is simplistic but I'm only trying to show how people get. It wouldn't be bad if people realized that personal opinion is just that, but a lot of people think their opinion should be taken as gospel by everyone on these boards and it gets highly annoying because truthfully there is no right or wrong answer; just preference.
 
Old 08-16-2011, 08:28 PM
 
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Cleveland's superior because it has stronger:

culture
public transit
diversity of affordable, high-quality living
largest residential population
best upside for downtown (billions in investment including a new hotel, office building, casino (which will bring more retail and restaurants) and brand new-medically-oriented convention center)
best natural setting (lake shore, Cuyahoga Nat'l valley, Chagrin Valley).
 
Old 08-17-2011, 12:39 PM
 
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1. Cleveland
2. Pittsburgh
3. Columbus
4. Indianapolis
 
Old 08-17-2011, 01:21 PM
 
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Cleveland's superior because it has stronger:

culture
public transit
diversity of affordable, high-quality living
largest residential population
best upside for downtown (billions in investment including a new hotel, office building, casino (which will bring more retail and restaurants) and brand new-medically-oriented convention center)
best natural setting (lake shore, Cuyahoga Nat'l valley, Chagrin Valley).
See this is why.
1. Culture is SOOOOOO personal opinionated.
2. Yeah I can concede public transit
3. Would be Indianapolis
4. Is actually Pittsburgh
5. Is not Cleveland just yet. You should really check to see what other cities are doing before making such a bold assumption. A medically oriented convention center is a great way to lose out on other business not medically oriented. Indy always has billions in investments downtown and has for over 20 years with constant development. If Indy wanted a land based casino downtown, it would happen but we don't want one downtown. Columbus is also getting hot and heavy with investing in its downtown area.
6. Also soooooo personal opinionated. Allegheny and surrounding counties has some very beautiful areas.
 
Old 08-17-2011, 10:10 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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1. Pittsburgh
2. Cleveland
3. Indianapolis
4. Columbus
 
Old 08-18-2011, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh (via Chicago, via Pittsburgh)
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i figured this would be a tight race between cleveland and pittsburgh. i'd say they are about on the same level at the top of this group
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