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Yeah, I agree that that Honolulu should be in tier 1 in percentages. Hell, Hawaii is the only state with an Asian plurality and Honolulu is the only "major city" in the country with an Asian majority.
That is interesting though--does Baltimore and its immediate surroundings have any sizable Asian communities or neighborhoods? What are those communities/neighborhoods?
I'd imagine most live out in Howard county. Like DC, any diversity in the Bmore area is likely going to be in the burbs.
Bmore should've definitely been counted separately, but we've already wasted enough time on the DC/Bmore CSA discussion.
I'd imagine most live out in Howard county. Like DC, any diversity in the Bmore area is likely going to be in the burbs.
Bmore should've definitely been counted separately, but we've already wasted enough time on the DC/Bmore CSA discussion.
All the other areas used was CSA so it would really be unfair to DC/Bmore if you broke them up at least on this list. If you went by MSA, Baltimore would be on that next tier lower than Atlanta with Miami.
I'd imagine most live out in Howard county. Like DC, any diversity in the Bmore area is likely going to be in the burbs.
Bmore should've definitely been counted separately, but we've already wasted enough time on the DC/Bmore CSA discussion.
Sure, though looking at the stats, Baltimore city still seems to have 14,548 Asian residents according to the 2010 census and the general trend was for the percentage to increase in the last quarter century. I wonder what the makeup and location(s) of that community is.
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That is interesting though--does Baltimore and its immediate surroundings have any sizable Asian communities or neighborhoods? What are those communities/neighborhoods?
His sarcasm is taken, but not in high numbers like DC and its surrounding MSA. I'd guess the break down is something like close to 700k in the DC MSA and 100k in the Baltimore MSA. But he is correct, the region counted as a CSA does include Baltimore and makes it a much higher tier Asian metropolis in raw numbers than most places in the country.
The US Census define white as anyone with predominant ancestry from Europe, Southwest Asia(mostly middle east), and even North Africa. Pakistanis, Indians, Bangladesh, and Sri Lankans are considered Asians, although most of them have a phenotype closer to that of Middle Easterners.
As a Chinese, we usually refer to East Asian and southeast Asian as "Asians" in terms of race/ethnicity. We all know from a geographic perspective it makes zero sense because "Asia and Europe" are one continent to start with. There is nothing that separates them.
We don't consider Indians/Southern Asians as "Asians". They have very different physiques. Arabs/Persians are basically white.
Typical physical features of "Asians": flatter face/low brow bones, high percentage of single eyelid (which is almost nonexistent among non Asians), little body odor/dry ear wax (not 100% but 95%), little body hair etc etc. Indians and Arabs are not like that.
As a Chinese, we usually refer to East Asian and southeast Asian as "Asians" in terms of race/ethnicity. We all know from a geographic perspective it makes zero sense because "Asia and Europe" are one continent to start with. There is nothing that separates them.
Geographically, Asia and Europe (and Africa, if you want to get technical) are parts of a greater landmass. Traditionally, the Ural Mountains separated Asia from Europe. Although Russia isn't the only transcontinental country, it's the one that is most associated with this split because it has significant portions in both Asia and Europe. Some nations, like Turkey and Kazakhstan, also are transcontinental, but only very small parts of them are considered European.
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We don't consider Indians/Southern Asians as "Asians". They have very different physiques. Arabs/Persians are basically white.
Typical physical features of "Asians": flatter face/low brow bones, high percentage of single eyelid (which is almost nonexistent among non Asians), little body odor/dry ear wax (not 100% but 95%), little body hair etc etc. Indians and Arabs are not like that.
For generations, at least from a Western perspective, "Asian" usually referred to someone from East Asia (i.e. someone from Vietnam, China, the Philippines, etc). A large part of that is due to far more East Asians migrating to the West in the late 19th and throughout the 20h centuries. But with more and more South Asians (India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, etc) migrating to the West, especially in the 21st century, the term "Asian" is gradually broadening to include people from the Indian subcontinent.
Ethnically and linguistically, East Asians and South Asians are of course very different and with the possible exception of the Nepali people (basically, this is where East and South Asia merge), there is little confusion between the two. Central Asia is a bit confusing because they're mainly Turkic peoples (these are the original Turks, meaning they are more closely related to Genghis Khan than Kemal Ataturk), which have varying proportions of Caucasian and East Asian DNA. Some look almost European, others can pass for Chinese.
Geographically, Asia and Europe (and Africa, if you want to get technical) are parts of a greater landmass. Traditionally, the Ural Mountains separated Asia from Europe. Although Russia isn't the only transcontinental country, it's the one that is most associated with this split because it has significant portions in both Asia and Europe. Some nations, like Turkey and Kazakhstan, also are transcontinental, but only very small parts of them are considered European.
For generations, at least from a Western perspective, "Asian" usually referred to someone from East Asia (i.e. someone from Vietnam, China, the Philippines, etc). A large part of that is due to far more East Asians migrating to the West in the late 19th and throughout the 20h centuries. But with more and more South Asians (India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, etc) migrating to the West, especially in the 21st century, the term "Asian" is gradually broadening to include people from the Indian subcontinent.
Ethnically and linguistically, East Asians and South Asians are of course very different and with the possible exception of the Nepali people (basically, this is where East and South Asia merge), there is little confusion between the two. Central Asia is a bit confusing because they're mainly Turkic peoples (these are the original Turks, meaning they are more closely related to Genghis Khan than Kemal Ataturk), which have varying proportions of Caucasian and East Asian DNA. Some look almost European, others can pass for Chinese.
You are pretty much right.
However to say Indians and Chinese are both "Asian" is like saying Americans and Mexicans are both ”North Americans“. The differece is probably greater from a physical or cultural perspective.
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