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Long story short, born and raised in Duluth, MN. Moved out to the Phoenix area over 7 years ago. Hyped things up, thought it was going to be amazing in the Phoenix area - was very let down overall. Yeah, the weather is nice in the winter (summer weather is very not fun, just like winter weather is out in Minnesota), but there's one thing that's really strange, and I'm not sure if it happens in every city. But I've seen this time and time again - when people move out here, they get addicted to the nightlife and the amount of variety, so no one's looking for anything serious. Also, yes there are a lot of jobs here, but they're not that great paying, and I've got a bachelor's.
So, I'm a little checked out of the Phoenix area (I gave it a shot for over 7 years, that's a good chunk of my life). So I may have a bit of a bias, and admittedly, I may be looking for people to validate my thoughts, but I'm looking for comparisons between the Phoenix metro as a whole and the Minneapolis metro as a whole. Economic outlook, the dating scene, etc.
Looking for any and all opinions, as long as they're civil and we don't end up getting this thread derailed
Cost of living index is higher in Minneapolis at 85 VS Phoenix of 71
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When you do the math, it is almost a break even. In Minneapolis though the job market has been increasing faster than the population where as in Phoenix the population is exploding along with the job market, so it might be easier to get a high paying job in Minneapolis.
Phoenix is a very transient city, so people want to go out more and meet new people. The nightlife is definitely better in the Phoenix metro, which is important to some. But if you get out of Scottsdale/Tempe areas it can be fairly family orientated like Minneapolis.
Both are great cities in my opinion. It comes down to picking a cold winter vs a hot summer.
I've lived in both for years, but can't say I like either. I'd rather live in Duluth or Bemidji than Minneapolis and I'd rather live in Tucson or Flagstaff than Phoenix.
I've lived in both for years, but can't say I like either. I'd rather live in Duluth or Bemidji than Minneapolis and I'd rather live in Tucson or Flagstaff than Phoenix.
Did you ever live in Duluth? I lived the majority of my life there - it's a rather small city and has a lot of charm, it's grown a lot over the years as well. I must say, I've gotten used to the amenities of a bigger city. However, maybe one day I may see myself back in my hometown.
There are a lot of Minnesotans out this way in general. When you run into them, it's always a great conversation.
A lot of German and Scandinavian descent in PHX - They had to mostly come from the Midwest
There was a girl I was semi dating in DEN last year from MSP. Her Mom lives in PHX, let's just say she didn't have rave reviews for Phoenix compared to Denver.
Did you ever live in Duluth? I lived the majority of my life there - it's a rather small city and has a lot of charm, it's grown a lot over the years as well. I must say, I've gotten used to the amenities of a bigger city. However, maybe one day I may see myself back in my hometown.
Surprise to me how Duluth is such a big Democratic stronghold. The last election, MN lit up red except for Duluth. Had another 1-2 more counties flipped, MN would have went for Big Don.
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