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In 2018 MHH in Boston was 71k in 2018, Suffolk County was 69k.
Greater Boston Median HHI was 85k in 2017.
Innn-terrresting.
The rest of Suffolk County (cities of Chelsea and Revere, town of Winthrop) is poorer than the city of Boston, then.
Wonder how they deal with housing affordability in Revere and (especially) Chelsea? (My recollection is that Winthrop doesn't have a lot of poor people in it.)
Many places are trying to address affordable housing by making most other housing more expensive.
This is very true. It’s true for all cities because that’s how the economics of affordable housing works in unsubsidized construction. Only affordable housing that is funded through the government by either gap funding for LIHTC housing or gap funding for market rate inclusionary zoning housing has no impact on affordability of market rate housing.
Any affordable housing being built in market rate housing that isn’t receiving subsidy funding from the government is just making that market rate housing more expensive.
It's making that other new housing more expensive AND it's resetting the price of the rest of the housing inventory.
In my city they've tried to counter this effect with upzones. But if they'd do upzones without the added costs, we'd be much cheaper.
In that scenario we'd find other funding means (in addition to the $25m/year we fund through a property tax levy), plus additional units at the high end of the affordable spectrum that we support through tax incentives.
The rest of Suffolk County (cities of Chelsea and Revere, town of Winthrop) is poorer than the city of Boston, then.
Wonder how they deal with housing affordability in Revere and (especially) Chelsea? (My recollection is that Winthrop doesn't have a lot of poor people in it.)
Chelsea was pretty damn bad in 2010. Not as bad as the lows of the early 1990s. But I think it was 13# Most dangerous city in the US in 2010. It began gentrifying a lot in 2013 and they placed and FBI/ICE field office in 2916 to crack down on rampant 18th Street, and MS-13 gang activity. It’s still more affordable than Boston but its far from cheap and appreciating quickly. Chelsea is poorer than Boston for sure but Revere is about the same as the outer neighborhoods of Boston.
Revere is the same but with far less appreciation. I’m not sure what Revere or Chelsea is doing in terms of affordable housing production. I just know they have more affordable market rate housing. They’re following the footsteps of East Boston.
Winthrop is not a poor place and is definitely wealthier than Boston.
The older apartments in Chelsea are pretty cheap, relatively But the new construction is nearly as expensive as new construction in Boston.
It's making that other new housing more expensive AND it's resetting the price of the rest of the housing inventory.
In my city they've tried to counter this effect with upzones. But if they'd do upzones without the added costs, we'd be much cheaper.
In that scenario we'd find other funding means (in addition to the $25m/year we fund through a property tax levy), plus additional units at the high end of the affordable spectrum that we support through tax incentives.
Yep, because without the portion of affordable housing in a market rate deal with inclusionary zoning requirements being funded by the government, the subsidy for those affordable units in a market rate deal is paid by the market rate units having either higher rent or sale costs.
At the end of the day, somebody has to pay for it.
MarketStEl..construction began in late February in 51 affordable housing units in Revere. Revere has 7 subsidized housing development, per the Re ere Housing Authority.
Chelsea has 16 affordable/senior housing complexes in its 2.2 square miles. It also has 8 CHA housing projects
How is Boston and its surrounding urban cities broken up? Are there official divisions larger than the census tract level that sort of conform to established neighborhoods or groups of neighborhoods—I see there are 23 official neighborhoods. Does Boston collect and have fairly up to date data on those 23 neighborhoods. If so, between Boston neighborhoods and the neighboring municipalities and how they’re broken up, what would constitute the most urban ~22 to 23 square miles of that area?
Are there official divisions larger than the census tract level that sort of conform to established neighborhoods or groups of neighborhoods—I see there are 23 official neighborhoods. Does Boston collect and have fairly up to date data on those 23 neighborhoods.
Zip codes? I guess I don’t really understand the question.
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How is Boston and its surrounding urban cities broken up? Are there official divisions larger than the census tract level that sort of conform to established neighborhoods or groups of neighborhoods—I see there are 23 official neighborhoods. Does Boston collect and have fairly up to date data on those 23 neighborhoods. If so, between Boston neighborhoods and the neighboring municipalities and how they’re broken up, what would constitute the most urban ~22 to 23 square miles of that area?
All towns and neighborhoods have their own zip codes. Larger cities have different zip code that are directly attributable to specific neighborhoods. Boston has 23 official neighborhoods but really only 16 main ones. Yes Boston collects on all neighborhoods and it’s prettty easily accessible.
The most urban 23 square miles Would probably be from the south North Dorchester/Roxbury north to Revere and west to Brookline/Watertown
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