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That River is nice. It looks kind of like Baltimroe just a bit cleaner and less ornate buildings generally. It’s nice overall. Skyline is bad though
Oh, I see--I didn't realize you were asking for skyline pics. Milwaukee has some tall buildings, but generally it's more interesting districts are filled with mid-rises instead of high-rises.
Full disclosure though--I'm just interested in Milwaukee, but have never been there. I'm in the northeast though and have spent some time in Providence and Baltimore with me liking the buildings and layout in Baltimore more, but actually liking being in Providence more. Having never been to Milwaukee, it's hard for me to gauge much about it. I'm guessing the overlap of people who've visited Baltimore and Providence is much, much greater than the overlap of either of these with Milwaukee.
Oh, I see--I didn't realize you were asking for skyline pics. Milwaukee has some tall buildings, but generally it's more interesting districts are filled with mid-rises instead of high-rises.
Full disclosure though--I'm just interested in Milwaukee, but have never been there. I'm in the northeast though and have spent some time in Providence and Baltimore with me liking the buildings and layout in Baltimore more, but actually liking being in Providence more. Having never been to Milwaukee, it's hard for me to gauge much about it. I'm guessing the overlap of people who've visited Baltimore and Providence is much, much greater than the overlap of either of these with Milwaukee.
I already looked up skyline pictures, but getting a feel for downtown requires more research. The downtown looks nice, but not as interesting to me as Baltimore.
How is Milwaukee small though? 592k people and 96square miles.
Smallish MSA but not a small city.
The city proper is decent, but most people go by MSA. Milwaukee, for a city its size, definitely holds its own. It's a city of festivals (every summer week-end...probably not this summer, though), the largest outdoor music festival in the country, the home of Harley Davidson, and the tens of thousands that descend on the city in the summer from the world over, for Harley events and parades. It's the home of 7 Fortune 500 companies, which isn't bad for a city its size.
Milwaukee was also chosen as the location for the DNC this year, but it remains to be seen, if that happens. I lived in Chicago and Milwaukee, and loved both cities, equally. There are more and more in Chicago, becoming aware of what Milwaukee has to offer, and spend time there in the summer. Hard to judge a city, when you've never been there. If you judge it only by the skyline, you're missing out on a lot. The stunning thing about downtown, is that it's ON Lake Michigan. Hard to beat that.
I already looked up skyline pictures, but getting a feel for downtown requires more research. The downtown looks nice, but not as interesting to me as Baltimore.
Baltimore has over a million more people than Milwaukee...you would judge those as being in the same category? Baltimore and Milwaukee both have 2 professional sports teams...nice for both cities.
Charm City for sure--but Howard St is so sad. The downtown shopping scene in US cities is pretty well gone everywhere (and COVID may finish it off) but Howard St is a ghost of its 1950s self.
In the Hartbeat of Connecticut -- for example -- here's Main Street Hartford now--with no stores and no shoppers. Not empty and abandoned like Howard St Baltimore but dead all the same. Here's the scene from the same vantage point back in 1972. The Sage-Allen department store is across the street next to shoe stores and other stores, the G. Fox dept store is out of view to the left, the sidewalks full of shoppers. Baltimore, Milwaukee, Providence same story, department stores all out of business and closed, shoe stores gone, record stores obsolete, and along with that, the sidewalks empty of shoppers. People go downtown to work, dine out, see a show, museum, but that big city retail magic is gone.
That has always been my take on Baltimore, having lived there. Downtown (I'm excluding the Inner Harbor) really looks like a ghost town that faded with the times. As you point out, as place like Howard Street looks like it has the bones of a great sort of main street back in the 1950's. In many major cities a street like Howard Street would have been revitalized and be a major shopping district now. There are no ritzy areas (lined with high-end shopping, entertainment, and restaurants) like that in downtown Baltimore.
You can find some small pockets of cool things like that in the Harbor area. Even the inner-harbor proper, while still beautiful, has those out-dated early 90s pavilions.
Baltimore is a city that just hasn't been able to keep up with the modern times, like other major cities. DC down the road is the exact opposite. It is full of trendy modern streets with shopping, restaurants, entertainment etc.
That has always been my take on Baltimore, having lived there. Downtown (I'm excluding the Inner Harbor) really looks like a ghost town that faded with the times. As you point out, as place like Howard Street looks like it has the bones of a great sort of main street back in the 1950's. In many major cities a street like Howard Street would have been revitalized and be a major shopping district now. There are no ritzy areas (lined with high-end shopping, entertainment, and restaurants) like that in downtown Baltimore.
You can find some small pockets of cool things like that in the Harbor area. Even the inner-harbor proper, while still beautiful, has those out-dated early 90s pavilions.
Baltimore is a city that just hasn't been able to keep up with the modern times, like other major cities. DC down the road is the exact opposite. It is full of trendy modern streets with shopping, restaurants, entertainment etc.
DC is 2x as large and it being down the road is part of the reason Baltimore is in the predicament it's in. State government pours virtually all it's resources into proper DC's MD metro, and gives Baltimore the left over scraps.
DC is 2x as large and it being down the road is part of the reason Baltimore is in the predicament it's in. State government pours virtually all it's resources into proper DC's MD metro, and gives Baltimore the left over scraps.
You would hope that Baltimore also benefits from the proximity since it's the main port for the entire region and it has fairly fast commuter rail to the DC area with far lower housing prices for urban neighborhoods.
Of course, those potential commuter shed benefits won't accrue as easily until after the plans for MARC extensions further into DC and NOVA, having the Camden line extended further into Baltimore, and greater frequencies come into fruition.
Baltimore has over a million more people than Milwaukee...you would judge those as being in the same category? Baltimore and Milwaukee both have 2 professional sports teams...nice for both cities.
Wait--hold on. The city populations of Milwaukee and Baltimore are almost identical. Providence is MUCH smaller.
On a different matter, Milwaukee's neighborhoods are pretty intact, and not dilapidated. Many are loaded with rather quaint bungalows that are quite affordable. Unfortunately, I can't say the same thing about Baltimore, where urban renewal is an absolute necessity..
There are 14 trains that travel between the two cities, also the actual distance between Milwaukee and Chicago is 63 miles. The rest is filled in with Milwaukee or Chicago suburbs.
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