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I was lucky enough to spend the 90s in the Bay Area at times in San Francisco and most of the 00s in NYC.
I think those were great periods for each of those cities. Culturally, and counter-culturally, both cities were unparalleled at that time I believe, whereas nowadays, there are many liberal hipsterish (for lack of a better word) areas spread all over, even places in like Iowa. Los Angeles in the 90s had the diversity to match, but still had the personality of a shallow beach city, and wouldn't develop to become I would argue more culturally hip than SF until many years later.
Back in the 90s both places were still semi-affordable, and even into the 00s, the not most desirable areas, but not undesirable (read: Queens ) were even still affordable. Nowadays it's almost limited to the wealthy. Counter-culture has become mainstream and record shops have all been replaced with Chipotle.
To me, I think the 90s/early 00s are the best decade for both cities for a number of reasons.
Compare your view of 90s SF/Bay Area versus 90s NYC. Which city was best?
I was lucky enough to spend the 90s in the Bay Area at times in San Francisco and most of the 00s in NYC.
I think those were great periods for each of those cities. Culturally, and counter-culturally, both cities were unparalleled at that time I believe, whereas nowadays, there are many liberal hipsterish (for lack of a better word) areas spread all over, even places in like Iowa. Los Angeles in the 90s had the diversity to match, but still had the personality of a shallow beach city, and wouldn't develop to become I would argue more culturally hip than SF until many years later.
Back in the 90s both places were still semi-affordable, and even into the 00s, the not most desirable areas, but not undesirable (read: Queens ) were even still affordable. Nowadays it's almost limited to the wealthy. Counter-culture has become mainstream and record shops have all been replaced with Chipotle.
To me, I think the 90s/early 00s are the best decade for both cities for a number of reasons.
Compare your view of 90s SF/Bay Area versus 90s NYC. Which city was best?
You can use the 80s and 00s too if you like.
90s NYC was great. 90s SF as well.
I think it was because of the 90s. This is when GenXers were full-on in their 20s...or going from their late teens to early twenties.
It is often said that GenXers are the last American or adult generation, and the 90s was the last American or adult decade
What about Millenials born between 1980 and 1984? They mostly came of age during that “different time”, pre-internet, thriving monoculture, as well.
Not really, someone born in 1984 wouldn't be 18 until 2002. They saw the 90s as kids, but were in the information age by the time they were young adults.
80 to 81 you can make the case for, but it's still borderline.
Those cities and the areas around them still had their original identities and what made them great in the ‘80s and ‘90s. Then crime rates (and crack/heroin usage) went down, young people with money decided they wanted to live in cities not suburbs, and working/middle class neighborhoods gentrified like wildfire into the same bland mishmash of coffee shops and restaurants that make the kind of food that pays exorbitant rents. Artists, musicians, working class families and the rest get pushed out, starve or sleep several people to a room.
1980 dob is more of a gen xer than millennial I think. They probably didn't have a cell phone until late college, and by the time the iPhone was mainstream they were almost 30.
As transformative as the internet itself was, I think the modern smartphone is what really made it a different world.
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) were even still affordable. Nowadays it's almost limited to the wealthy. Counter-culture has become mainstream and record shops have all been replaced with Chipotle.
