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Old 08-01-2020, 08:45 PM
 
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Choose ONE from tier 1, and TWO from tier’s 2 thru 4

To elaborate, one city may have a large MSA population but it’s downtown may not offer very much in correspondence to its actual metro area, while at the same token a smaller metro may offer much more in its core. Which metros do you feel have the strongest downtown in correlation to their metro populations?

In principal, the smaller the metro while offering equal to or greater amenities than competitor cities would be the best.

Criteria:

Skyline
Amenities
Access to Public Transportation
Walkability
Vibrancy



Tier 1:

Chicago
Los Angeles
New York

Tier 2:

Atlanta
Boston
Dallas
D.C.
Houston
Miami
Philadelphia
Phoenix
San Francisco
Seattle

Tier 3:

Austin
Charlotte
Cincinnati
Cleveland
Columbus OH
Denver
Minneapolis
Nashville
Sacramento
Salt Lake City
St.Peterburg
Tampa
Pittsburgh

Tier 4:

Asheville
Boise
Chattanooga
Columbia SC
Colorado Springs
Myrtle Beach
Daytona FL
Olympia WA
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Old 08-01-2020, 09:10 PM
 
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New York: I think this is pretty obvious

Seattle: robust downtown with significantly more suburban neighborhoods compared to the others with somewhat comparable Downtowns so very Downtown centric in form

Pittsburgh: Cincinnati might be close but Pittsburgh kept a lot of workers Downtown compared to a lot of cities in that list and has pretty high transit usage

I really don’t know.

Hartford is super DT centric it has as many jobs Downtown (120,000) as many cities much larger and as a result is very busy during the day but less so at night
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Old 08-01-2020, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Greater Orlampa CSA
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Criteria:

Skyline
Amenities
Access to Public Transportation
Walkability
Vibrancy


Tier 1:
New York

Tier 2:
Boston
D.C.

Tier 3:
Cleveland
Denver

Tier 4:
Asheville
Chattanooga
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Old 08-01-2020, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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I’d honestly put Las Vegas as the most downtown centric metro in the country even over NYC
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Old 08-01-2020, 09:37 PM
 
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How are you defining "downtown?" For example, with NYC are you talking only the actual downtown or do you count Midtown as part of that? What about downtown Brooklyn? Can a city have multiple downtowns?
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Old 08-01-2020, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I’d honestly put Las Vegas as the most downtown centric metro in the country even over NYC
But why? You do realize that the Strip isn't Downtown, right?
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Old 08-01-2020, 09:47 PM
 
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New York: I think this is pretty obvious

Seattle: robust downtown with significantly more suburban neighborhoods compared to the others with somewhat comparable Downtowns so very Downtown centric in form

Pittsburgh: Cincinnati might be close but Pittsburgh kept a lot of workers Downtown compared to a lot of cities in that list and has pretty high transit usage

I really don’t know.

Hartford is super DT centric it has as many jobs Downtown (120,000) as many cities much larger and as a result is very busy during the day but less so at night
Seattle has more urban neighborhoods than most of the other Tier 2 cities listed, like Houston, Atlanta, Miami, etc. Capitol Hill, Queen Anne, First Hill, SLU, U District, Inner Ballard, etc. Not compared to SF, DC, Boston or Philly but do you really think Seattle’s downtown is comparable to those cities?

Also Seattle is a very neighborhood-oriented city. Even the more suburban neighborhoods throughout the city have their own little walkable “urban-ish” downtown-esque areas with their own distinct character.

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Old 08-01-2020, 10:14 PM
 
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LA should not be Tier 1. Its metro offers so much more than its downtown and for decades until recently the downtown has been one of the worst areas in the metro.

Austin offers more in its downtown relative to its metro than most cities, it should be Tier 2 IMO
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Old 08-01-2020, 10:26 PM
 
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Seattle has more urban neighborhoods than most of the other Tier 2 cities listed, like Houston, Atlanta, Miami, etc. Capitol Hill, Queen Anne, First Hill, SLU, U District, Inner Ballard, etc. Not compared to SF, DC, Boston or Philly but do you really think Seattle’s downtown is comparable to those cities?

Also Seattle is a very neighborhood-oriented city. Even the more suburban neighborhoods throughout the city have their own little walkable “urban-ish” downtown-esque areas with their own distinct character.
I think those other cities that don't have top 10 Downtowns (save Atlanta) have very poor downtowns, and are so sprawled out that no one place is really a central attraction for the metro area.

Seattle I think has a Downtown that more resembles Boston/Philly/SF than say West Seattle is like Kensington or East Boston. So I think it stands out as rather Downtown Centric comparatively.
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Old 08-01-2020, 10:34 PM
 
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La isn't tier 1 and tier 2 has alot of questions.

Nyc
Chicago
Sf
Philly
Dc
Bos
Sea
La

Are the top 8, mostly in that order.
After that, it gets fuzzy.
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