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View Poll Results: Do you agree with the projections?
Yes 25 34.25%
No 48 65.75%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-18-2021, 10:27 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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These 25 year projections are a loose estimate at best and a crap shoot at worst. So much can change in the next quarter century, but generally the metros that have been growing the past 25 years will continue to grow. That said, Riverside CA and Phoenix seem greatly exaggerated. I will add that we don’t know how the pandemic may effect these numbers, since as the op said based on 2018.

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Old 01-18-2021, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Hell no I don’t agree. No one knows what’s to come in the next two decades. These projections are never accurate for this reason. Chicago can easily go back to an upward trajectory
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Old 01-18-2021, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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So the LA metro are will be the largest in the country. There's no reason that LA and Riverside should be considered separate metro areas. Anyone who has driven between the two knows it's contiguous urban area. Plus another million in Ventura county. NYC looks flat to 2046.
This. I've never understood this.

Overall, I agree with the list.
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Old 01-18-2021, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I hate it when publications conflate "cities" with "MSAs".
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Old 01-19-2021, 12:00 AM
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I can definitely see the top 7 cities.
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Old 01-19-2021, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Earth
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With the amount of sprawl in Texas' metros, I have to wonder if one day their suburbs will meet.
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Old 01-19-2021, 06:18 AM
 
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I don't agree, at all. Who could have predicted 2020? Who can predict earthquake devastation (i.e. Cascadia, San Andreas),who can predict if people will not need to live in a certain city to work....I think we all know that people will be able to choose where to live, wherever the company they work for is (unless, of course, it's hands-on work). I predict some smaller cities will be growing, due to COL being so expensive in some large cities, etc. You may disagree with me....that's the thing....no one knows, not me, not you.
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Old 01-19-2021, 06:40 AM
 
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I think Chicago is a mistake.
I don't think they are showing a decline for Chicago, but an 8% increase.
The mistake is the current and 2046 numbers were switched.
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Old 01-19-2021, 07:02 AM
 
Location: New York City
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So many things wrong with this list...Some of the top items...

1. Mentioning cities, but ranking metros, that is lazy and likely to contain a lot of either flaws of assumptions.

2. I love Chicago, but the city and state are shedding people, and I predict Chicago will lose a fair amount of people by 2046 if current rates remain relatively the same (even in 2018 when this list was made, Chicago was losing people). Chicago will still be a powerhouse, just losing people.

3. The picture for Atlanta is not Atlanta...Come on...any ranking loses credibility for me if you can't even get the picture right. Many pictures are also dated ~pre 2010.

4. While I do expect certain metros to sustain double digit growth, some of the metros are quite exaggerated. Atlanta and Houston growing 50% in 25 years?! Not happening, nor would that be a good thing. So many problems would occur with infrastructure, housing, crime, poverty, etc.

5. Why is every metro growing...? There appears no mind of natural disasters (Miami, Houston, etc.), recessions, Covid was unpredictable, but any type of world altering event should be considered. You can just look at growth from 1980 - 2018 and say its going to do the same exact thing for 25 more years.

6. What exactly are Megan Elliott's credentials beside poor journalism...
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Old 01-19-2021, 07:25 AM
 
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So many things wrong with this list...Some of the top items...

1. Mentioning cities, but ranking metros, that is lazy and likely to contain a lot of either flaws of assumptions.

2. I love Chicago, but the city and state are shedding people, and I predict Chicago will lose a fair amount of people by 2046 if current rates remain relatively the same (even in 2018 when this list was made, Chicago was losing people). Chicago will still be a powerhouse, just losing people.

3. The picture for Atlanta is not Atlanta...Come on...any ranking loses credibility for me if you can't even get the picture right. Many pictures are also dated ~pre 2010.

4. While I do expect certain metros to sustain double digit growth, some of the metros are quite exaggerated. Atlanta and Houston growing 50% in 25 years?! Not happening, nor would that be a good thing. So many problems would occur with infrastructure, housing, crime, poverty, etc.

5. Why is every metro growing...? There appears no mind of natural disasters (Miami, Houston, etc.), recessions, Covid was unpredictable, but any type of world altering event should be considered. You can just look at growth from 1980 - 2018 and say its going to do the same exact thing for 25 more years.

6. What exactly are Megan Elliott's credentials beside poor journalism...
Chicago has lost a lot of its Black population. That may still continue. Chicago is attracting a college educated people...that may continue. I definitely think the exodus will level off, and then Chicago will be growing again.
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