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Old 08-07-2014, 02:33 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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there are variables in all of these cities, and 'provincial' doesn't always translate to "less transient"...
On that note, the West often strikes me as both transient and provincial. Lots of people move out West and then spend the rest of their lives ****ting all over everything east of 100°W.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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In Portland, I remarked what'd you do with the natives? Expel them?!

I actually know a Portland native living here, his dad was an important Oregon politician. But both of his parents moved weren't Oregon natives. My great-great grandmother spent her later life a few miles from where I grew up.
I moved to Portland back in 1978. My first friends were all transplants like myself. Natives would have nothing to do with me and were often openly hostile at the workplace because I was an transplant. They said so.

Gradually though, as years passed, most of my friends were those who were born in Portland or in Oregon who had moved to Portland. It takes time for them to let outsiders in. They seem to be somewhat untrusting of newcomers even to this day. There is a huge difference in the mentality and outlook of transplants especially recent ones and natives at least amongst the older generations of which I am a part so I can understand their reasons. But being a transplant myself, even an older one, I can kind of see both sides.
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Old 08-07-2014, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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In my experience, the most transient cities in America are, in no particular order:

Las Vegas
Phoenix
Houston
Austin
Dallas
Atlanta
Seattle
Portland
Washington DC
NYC
Charlotte
Miami
Orlando

The most provincial/least transient would be:

Detroit
Boston
New Orleans
Cleveland
Pittsburgh
Milwaukee
Hartford
Providence
Louisville
Cincinatti
Buffalo
Spokane

Of course there are variables in all of these cities, and 'provincial' doesn't always translate to "less transient", but without over-analyzing these factors, this has been the way these cities have struck me in my own personal experience.



DC is less transient than many people think. DC is also very provincial, especially in the SE and NE sections of the city.



http://www.borderstan.com/06/its-tim...ransient-city/
Well those are the more gritty areas of DC (overall). I think most gritty parts of any city are provincial and less transient.
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Old 08-07-2014, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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Well those are the more gritty areas of DC (overall). I think most gritty parts of any city are provincial and less transient.
To be clear, the very last blurb in that post, and the provided link are not mine. Earlier somebody quoted my post, but for some reason cut part of the HTML out to make it appear as one big post.
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Old 08-07-2014, 05:56 PM
 
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I moved to Portland back in 1978. My first friends were all transplants like myself. Natives would have nothing to do with me and were often openly hostile at the workplace because I was an transplant. They said so.

Gradually though, as years passed, most of my friends were those who were born in Portland or in Oregon who had moved to Portland. It takes time for them to let outsiders in. They seem to be somewhat untrusting of newcomers even to this day. There is a huge difference in the mentality and outlook of transplants especially recent ones and natives at least amongst the older generations of which I am a part so I can understand their reasons. But being a transplant myself, even an older one, I can kind of see both sides.
I went to college in Oregon after moving up from California fifteen years ago, so probably most of my closest friends(and my fiancée) in Portland were either born in Oregon or grew up here. Also though I think it's due to the fact that most of the people I met in my twenties who weren't from Portland all moved on to somewhere else--the ones that stayed in Portland all had family in Oregon. A lot of people just left back to where they came from or a to a bigger city after a stretch in Portland. The younger generations who are actually from Portland are fairly used to having transplant friends(considering much of inner Portland is dominated by transplants who just got here)--the older generations and people in the outer suburbs are much more insular though. When I first moved up here from Ashland and got a job with a general contractor in Hillsboro, the first thing anyone asked me was what high school I went to...and when I replied with a place in California, they'd roll their eyes.
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Old 08-09-2014, 06:55 PM
 
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Chicago didn't seem transient outside of the few trendy neighborhoods on the north side.
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