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Have been to both several times. Lived in Chicago...and dated a girl in college from Madison, OH so I was up there in the winter...
Must say, much prefer Milwaukee at least as a city to go have a fun weekend in.
Have been to both several times. Lived in Chicago...and dated a girl in college from Madison, OH so I was up there in the winter...
Must say, much prefer Milwaukee at least as a city to go have a fun weekend in.
Hahaha... Madison, Ohio is not Cleveland, sorry. Not even close. It takes me the same amount of time to drive to Canton, OH as it would Madison.
Hahaha... Madison, Ohio is not Cleveland, sorry. Not even close. It takes me the same amount of time to drive to Canton, OH as it would Madison.
Nor is Chicago, Milwaukee. The point was I was in the area and have visited both many times. I also went to Cleveland after George Harrison died and many stops while driving through.
Have been to both several times. Lived in Chicago...and dated a girl in college from Madison, OH so I was up there in the winter...
Must say, much prefer Milwaukee at least as a city to go have a fun weekend in.
Interesting. I actually grew up not to far from Madison, OH. Being a native of Northeast Ohio I am very familiar with Cleveland. Living in Chicago has given me the opportunity to explore Milwaukee and have some nights out on the town there. Checked out downtown, 3rd Ward, Brady Street area, and much of the north side neighborhoods and burbs. Milwaukee is a pretty cool city, but from an entertainment aspect I think Cleveland is better. To me Cleveland seems to have more of a variety of nightlife options and amenities. I have not been everywhere in Milwaukee, but I think I hit the hightlights pretty good and was guided by some locals. The big advantages I see Milwaukee having over Cleveland is the lakefront and also that it has nicer neighborhoods directly adjacent to downtown.
Milwaukee's lakefront near downtown blows Cleveland's away, no doubt. And the Lower East Side and Brady (esp near/on the lakefront are great). Riverwalk, right now, bests our Flats (and bests the Chicago river, for amenities/residences, for that part). Shorewood's a nice close in suburb; grand old homes...
But that's where Milwaukee's advantages end. OK, maybe Cleveland's near-downtown Ohio City is not quite as compelling as Milwaukee's Lower East side, but O.City, with it's historic West Side Market, hip/vibrant restaurants and miles of restored Victorian houses, is hardly anybody’s chopped liver... And besides, Cleveland's Edgewater/Gold Coast, though a tad further out from downtown that Mil's Lower East Side/Brady, but it offers many of the compelling aspects the Lower East Side does: fancy modern Lakefront high-rises; nearby upscale mixed-use, trendy retail/restaurant areas (along Clifton and Detroit), much old classic apt structures, high-end old & new houses hugging the lakeshore (inside Cleveland in Edgewater)... There's no cultural area in Brew City that can touch University Circle; and for hospitals, Cleveland's #2 hospital, University Hospital, trumps anything Milwaukee has to offer (and let's not even mention the words Cleveland Clinic). Culturally, again Cleveland leaves Milwaukee in the dust -- nothing approaching: Playhouse Square in terms of a core of grand theatres in one place (no city has anything like it save Broadway, itself; the (top 3 in the US) Cleveland Orchestra, The Art Museum -- yeah, I know, Milwaukee's is trendy and pretty/modern, but can't touch the CMA in terms of collections (size and diversity) and the grandness of the classic Italian Renaissance on the Lagoon; Cleveland’s prestige university is Top-50 Case Western, Milwaukee’s: Marquette U – not even Top 100 by most raters; Milwaukee has nothing approaching a Shaker Heights, in terms of sheer force of beauty, prestige, schools, etc. and, as a group, there's nothing approaching the Heights area-to-the Chagrin valley in terms of quality, upscale and sheer beautiful setting/living (hell, Cleveland’s “weaker” (than the East Side) suburban group, the West Side/Lakeshore, suburbs blows away any similar group of Milwaukee suburbs; nothing like the cluster of Sports facilities (3 new stadiums) right downtown, w/in walking distance of one another and all directly served by rapid rail transit -- with CSU's NCAA-ready Wolstein basketball center just a few blocks,...
... oh, and did I mention Cleveland’s 4-line rapid transit? ... well, Skyscraper City has a 100-odd page thread asking the question: will Milwaukee ever see rail transit? ... Oops! 'nuff said.
... Yeah, I know, Milwaukee’s the hot trendy choice for a lot of posters, probably because so many posters are exposed to it, more than C-town, because of Brew City's closeness to Chicago.... and yeah, would I prefer Cleveland being a 1-hour drive from one of the sexiest, hottest cities in the world? Of course, obviously… But you can’t have everything and you should rate cities by what they are, in themselves, not by what other city’s close to them… And on most measuring sticks, both those I've noted and not noted, Cleveland whips Milwaukee, hands down.
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