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Seing how the question compared NYC to LA and Washington DC.....
1. NYC
2. LA
3. DC
It is not a vulgar stretch to say that Yale falls in the NYC orbit..... simply put, there is a slightly greater diveristy and net contribution to higher education in the Tri-State area than in Southern California in all fields. Yes, it is close, and an arguement could be made either way.
My observations are this:
1) The respective nexuses of academia on either coast are Boston and the Bay Area
2) While "Best College" lists are almost always rather subjective, the US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT list is generally regarded as the most accurate by the Colleges themselves
3) You must include the various graduate schools in your ranking - a pure engineering school may rank higher on an undergraduate level than a proper university, but will not crank out the prestigious MDs, JDs and MBAs that are often associated with more pedestrian academic excellence. You have to include a broader "higher education metric" than just building things for NASA.
No, actually it's the CSA area. To most people the NY metropolitan area is NYC-Northern new Jersey-Long Island.
Oh yes because because its called the tri-state area. Its called the tri state area because NJ, NY, and CT are so close to each other. The Metro also includes PA(if you paid attention to my previous post). Yes according to official boundaries thats considered the Metro but its so relatively close that it can be apart of the metro area. Atlantic City is way further than both and its like considered apart of NYC because of close access. Going to Washington DC takes about 4 hours by car how long do you think it will take to get these places. And Philadelphia being so close.
Oh yes because because its called the tri-state area. Its called the tri state area because NJ, NY, and CT are so close to each other. The Metro also includes PA(if you paid attention to my previous post). Yes according to official boundaries thats considered the Metro but its so relatively close that it can be apart of the metro area. Atlantic City is way further than both and its like considered apart of NYC because of close access. Going to Washington DC takes about 4 hours by car how long do you think it will take to get these places. And Philadelphia being so close.
1. None of what you just said made any sense at all.
2. Atlantic City is in southern New Jersey and is not part of the New York metropolitan or CSA area.
1. None of what you just said made any sense at all.
2. Atlantic City is in southern New Jersey and is not part of the New York metropolitan or CSA area.
Oh wow only people who live in the tri-state area knows everything i said makes since. It wouldnt make sense to an outsider. Actually it makes perfect sense.
Oh wow only people who live in the tri-state area knows everything i said makes since. It wouldnt make sense to an outsider. Actually it makes perfect sense.
Apparently not New Yorkers must have learned how to read non-english jibberish.
I don't think Princeton is really that much more affiliated with Philly. Anyhow, it's your topic, and if you don't want to include the CSA (which I agree is a rather huge area), then fine.
Without the CSA, it'd be a three-way between NYC, the Southland, and the Bay Area with LA being severely underrated by most. The two California areas are generally better when it comes to engineering and the sciences, but NYC picks up that slack through its mix of specialty schools and role in the performing and fine arts (to basketballkev: as I've said before, these rankings are generally strongly weighted towards research-oriented fields such as the math and sciences). DC would be further down the list from these, and Boston would be further up.
Other interesting metros to discuss would be Atlanta, Philly, Pittsburgh, and Chicago which all have more than one highly ranked college/university within the metro. Any others?
I don't think Princeton is really that much more affiliated with Philly. Anyhow, it's your topic, and if you don't want to include the CSA (which I agree is a rather huge area), then fine.
Without the CSA, it'd be a three-way between NYC, the Southland, and the Bay Area with LA being severely underrated by most. The two California areas are generally better when it comes to engineering and the sciences, but NYC picks up that slack through its mix of specialty schools and role in the performing and fine arts (to basketballkev: as I've said before, these rankings are generally strongly weighted towards research-oriented fields such as the math and sciences). DC would be further down the list from these, and Boston would be further up.
Other interesting metros to discuss would be Atlanta, Philly, Pittsburgh, and Chicago which all have more than one highly ranked college/university within the metro. Any others?
I think it's more affiliated with Philly, but in reality, it isn't part of either. As was discussed in my thread about Philadelphia, there is a strange trend in the northeast where the major cities (DC, Philly, NYC, Boston) seem to be gobbling up any land with a house on it. (Amherst and Providence into Boston, New Haven and Atlantic City into NYC). Why can't people just be ok with some cities being independent from larger metros? Maybe Princeton can just stand on its own without being fought over by huge agglomerations.
And yes, there is potential for more city comparisons in higher education, particularly with Chicago - I think would be a fun debate.
Yea, sorry for derailing everything by using the CSA. I mean, it is a pretty easy commute from New Haven and Princeton to the city, but it is a damn big area. I'd love for cities to be able to contain themselves and keep their distinct identities--don't look like it'll be happening.
Chicago's schools have been really influential. It's really hard to figure out how that ranks since the University of Chicago seems to have such a unique and rigorous curriculum (read: misery-inducing according to a friend of mine).
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Its called the tri state area because NJ, NY, and CT are so close to each other. The Metro also includes PA(if you paid attention to my previous post). Yes according to official boundaries thats considered the Metro but its so relatively close that it can be apart of the metro area. Atlantic City is way further than both and its like considered apart of NYC because of close access. Going to Washington DC takes about 4 hours by car how long do you think it will take to get these places. And Philadelphia being so close.
New Yorkers must have learned how to read non-english jibberish.
