Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-07-2023, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
13,727 posts, read 15,739,400 times
Reputation: 4081

Advertisements

Top 20 Cities to Live Without a Car in 2023

1. Boston, MA
2. Newark, NJ
3. New York City, NY
4. Washington DC
5. San Francisco, CA
6. Philadelphia, PA
7. Seattle, WA
8. Oakland, CA
9. Madison, WI
10. Pittsburg, PA
11. Portland, OR
12. Chicago, IL
13. Minneapolis, MN
14. Alexandria, VA
15. Salt Lake City, UT
16. Arlington, VA
17. Ann Arbor, MI
18. Eugene, OR
19. Buffalo, NY
20. St. Louis, MO
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-07-2023, 10:58 AM
 
441 posts, read 227,367 times
Reputation: 749
Madison and Pittsburgh above chicago?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2023, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
10,056 posts, read 14,422,738 times
Reputation: 11240
And Newark ahead of New York City? Head scratching.

Newark has come a long way over the past few years, but there are many sketchy areas. It may be walkable, but not sure if you'd want to walk in some parts. LOL
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2023, 11:15 AM
 
1,203 posts, read 790,966 times
Reputation: 1416
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjbradleynyc View Post
And Newark ahead of New York City? Head scratching.

Newark has come a long way over the past few years, but there are many sketchy areas. It may be walkable, but not sure if you'd want to walk in some parts. LOL
I'll say the same about Oakland - sure areas are walkable, but do you really want to walk around?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2023, 11:17 AM
 
2,262 posts, read 2,396,802 times
Reputation: 2741
Sounds about right. When I lived in Arlington after college I didn’t even own a car… for years. I usually rode my bike or took Metro.

With all the growth in the south and sunbelt these days it’ll be interesting to see if they start investing more in public transportation, bike lanes, etc. that’s still very important to a lot of people.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2023, 11:40 AM
 
441 posts, read 227,367 times
Reputation: 749
Quote:
Originally Posted by NOVA_guy View Post
Sounds about right. When I lived in Arlington after college I didn’t even own a car… for years. I usually rode my bike or took Metro.

With all the growth in the south and sunbelt these days it’ll be interesting to see if they start investing more in public transportation, bike lanes, etc. that’s still very important to a lot of people.

Nah just building more subdivisions and parking garages. And why build more transit if the ridership is gonna be abysmal. Name a sunbelt/southern city where public transit is actually utilized at a decent rate
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2023, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Upper Midwest
253 posts, read 122,344 times
Reputation: 884
Ironic. The list placed Chicago too low, yet used a picture of downtown Chicago at the top of the story.

% of population "commuting by public transportation" is different from % of population "that can easily commute by public transportation". The extensive CTA train and bus system is available to all who want to use it. User numbers are down due to other issues that the CTA will hopefully get worked out soon.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2023, 12:09 PM
 
4,520 posts, read 5,091,757 times
Reputation: 4839
I am always suspicious of these kinds of polls... The fact that New York City is not number 1 (and by a wide margin) immediately wrecks any credibility this may have.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2023, 12:36 PM
 
Location: In the heights
37,127 posts, read 39,349,217 times
Reputation: 21212
The rankings are a bit funny which makes sense given the methodology used.

It seems to go by city limits (given the Newark and NYC split as well as the SF and Oakland split) which can vary quite a bit for a lot of the stats. It also does average price by adult base fare, but that doesn't seem to adjust for income differences among different places nor can it account for places with a lot of specialized fare programs (NYC has a lot of discounted fare programs, and I'm sure it's not the only place with such, and those can vary quite a bit). Also, not surprising given the source, they have a factor for coworking spaces per 100,000 residents.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-07-2023, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
36,653 posts, read 67,482,823 times
Reputation: 21229
Quote:
Originally Posted by ion475 View Post
I'll say the same about Oakland - sure areas are walkable, but do you really want to walk around?
Oakland actually has lots of walkable areas that are very nice---Adams Point, Lakeshore, Grand Lake, Rockridge, Piedmont Avenue, etc even downtown and surrounding areas are not a chore to walk around.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top