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In raw numbers, Los Angeles county far surpassed the 5 boroughs of New York city in homicides.
Now L.A city & Chicago always kinda been neck and neck due to how close they were in population.I know the Black homicide rate per capita is worse in Los Angeles than in Chicago has far more African Americans living in poor areas.
In raw numbers, Los Angeles county far surpassed the 5 boroughs of New York city in homicides.
Now L.A city & Chicago always kinda been neck and neck due to how close they were in population.I know the Black homicide rate per capita is worse in Los Angeles than in Chicago has far more African Americans living in poor areas.
Yes, it was neck and neck but still: New York (#1), Chicago (#2), Los Angeles (#3).
Here's what we have for all 3 cities since the 70's
New York city population for the 70s = 7,894,862
1970 : 1117
1971 : 1466
1972 : 1691
1973 : 1680
1974 :1554
1975 : 1645
1976 : 1622
1977 : 1557
1978 : 1504
1979 : 1733
Chicago population for the 70s = 3,366,957
1970 : 810
1971 : 824
1972 : 711
1973 : 862
1974 : 970 ( All time high )
1975 : 818
1976 : 814
1977 : 823
1978 : 787
1979 : 856
Now let's keep in mind Los Angeles doesn't surpass Chicago in population until the mid to late 80's.
Los Angeles 1970's population is 2.8 million and the gang problem isn't really heavy until the late 70s.
1970 : 394
1971 : 427
1972 : 501
1973 : 491
1974 : 481
1975 : 556
1976 : 517
1977 : 574
1978 : 678
1979 : 817
New York city clearly was worse in the 70s but Chicago had one of they all time worse years in 1974.
Now for the 80s
New York city population for the 80s = 7,071,639
1980 : 1814
1981 : 1826
1982 : 1668
1983 : 1622
1984 : 1450
1985 : 1384
1986 : 1582
1987 : 1672
1988 : 1896
1989 : 1905
Chicago population for the 80s = 3,005,072
1980 : 863
1981 : 877
1982 : 668
1983 : 729
1984 : 741
1985 : 666
1986 : 744
1987 : 691
1988 : 660
1989 : 742
Los Angeles population for the 80's = 2.9 million
1980 : 1028 [ All time high in homicides 34 per 100 ]
1981 : 877
1982 : 844
1983 : 818
1984 : 757
1985 : 777
1986 : 831
1987 : 812
1988 : 736
1989 : 874
So now in the 80s Los Angeles became the worst and also put up more bodies than Chicago despite the lower population
New York city population for the 90s = 7,322,278
1990 : 2245 ( All time high )
1991 : 2154
1992 : 1995
1993 :1946
1994 : 1561
1995 : 1177
1996 : 983
1997 : 770
1998 : 633
1999 :671
New York city worst time period ever was 1989 - 1993 where 1900 - 2200 were killed yearly to a total of 10,245
Chicago population for the 90s = 2,783,911
1990 : 851
1991 : 928
1992 : 943
1993 : 855
1994 : 931
1995 : 828
1996 : 796
1997 : 761
1998 : 704
1999 : 643
Chicago worst time period ever was 1990 - 1995 where 800 - 940 where killed yearly to a total of 5,336
Los Angeles population for the 90s = 3.48 million
1990 : 983
1991 : 1025
1992 : 1092 ( New All time high ) Countywide it's 2,589
1993 : 1077
1994 : 850
1995 : 838
1996 : 707
1997 : 566
1998 : 419
1999 : 420
1992 should be noted as the year Los Angeles experienced the worst urban uprising in the history of the United states.L.A worst time period ever was 1989 - 1995 where 800 - 1000 we're killed yearly to a total of 6,739
Nice highlights but that should be for another thread. This thread is for the 1990s and in total murders the rank is as follows:
#1. New York-14,135
#2 Chicago-8,240
#3 Los Angeles-7,972
New York is a city of 8 million so of course it should have the most bodies.Simple math,
Like i said earlier,Los Angeles and Chicago aren't so far away in population so it's always been kinda neck and neck.I'd give 1990 - 94 to Los Angeles and than 95 - 99 to Chicago far as the 90s go.
Now if you want county numbers,Los Angeles clocked around 17,000 + in the decade.So Its always gonna be about population when you compare cities that's so massive.
Overall Chicago had more homicides in the 90s because Los Angeles started to really decline in 98 and 99.
But there's still no single year in Chicago history that ever saw more bodies than L.A in 1980 or 1992.Facts
New York is a city of 8 million so of course it should have the most bodies.Simple math,
Like i said earlier,Los Angeles and Chicago aren't so far away in population so it's always been kinda neck and neck.I'd give 1990 - 94 to Los Angeles and than 95 - 99 to Chicago far as the 90s go.
Now if you want county numbers,Los Angeles clocked around 17,000 + in the decade.So Its always gonna be about population when you compare cities that's so massive.
Overall Chicago had more homicides in the 90s because Los Angeles started to really decline in 98 and 99.
But there's still no single year in Chicago history that ever saw more bodies than L.A in 1980 or 1992.Facts
The thread is the most dangerous cities in the 90s not the 80s and does not include counties. Los Angeles county includes LA plus 87 other cities. So all that is irrelevant to the point of the thread. But just to give you an idea of how much more dangerous Chicago was than both New York and LA, Chicago by itself had more people shot in 1991 and 1992 than LA county and New York COMBINED. When determining what city is the most dangerous, you factor in all shootings and killings.
Shot+killed(shootings, stabbings, beatings, etc.)
Chicago-15,674
Los Angeles-9,583
*note the number for Los Angeles is actually less than 9,692. I used LA county shooting statistics but not murders.
Not to mention the worst areas in Chicago were more dangerous than the worst areas in LA. That's even true up until today. In 2016, portions of Chicago's west side experienced more homicides with less population than the most dangerous police divisions in South Central for 1993. Mind you, 1993 is when South Central hit its peak in violence.
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-- Los Angeles
Murders Hit Record High in South L.A. but Fall in Harbor : Crime: Officials attribute the decline to work by a police task force and to a gang cease-fire. In neighboring areas, though, 'The level of violence is unbelievable,' LAPD commander says.
December 19, 1993|ROBERT J. LOPEZ | TIMES STAFF WRITER
With two weeks left in the year, homicides are already at a record level in the Police Department bureau that covers South Los Angeles.
The one exception to the general rise in murders in the South Bureau's turf appears to be in Harbor Division, which covers Harbor City, Harbor Gateway, Wilmington and San Pedro.
As of Friday morning, the South Bureau had logged 412 homicides, surpassing last year's record 403 slayings. The 1993 toll is especially striking, police say, considering that 13 of the homicides in 1992 were directly attributed to the riots.
"The level of violence is unbelievable," said Lt. Sergio Robleto, commander of the South Bureau homicide detail. "My detectives are hard-pressed to keep up with the pace."
Not so, though, in Harbor Division. As of Dec. 13, Harbor Division had recorded 31 murders. If that figure doesn't change before the end of the year, it will mark a 26% decline from the 42 homicides in Harbor Division communities last year.
Moreover, the number of gang-related murders in the harbor area plummeted, by a record 70%.
Most striking are the apparent declines in gang-related murders in San Pedro (from six in 1992 to one so far in 1993) and in Wilmington (from 10 murders to three this year). Harbor City, which had two gang killings last year, has had one so far in 1993, and Harbor Gateway's gang murders have numbered two so far, compared with three last year.
Police attribute the dramatic decline in murders in the harbor area to work by the department's gang control unit, Community Resources Against Street Hoodlums, and an area-wide cease-fire observed by gang members since early this year.
"Frankly it's really difficult to say why crime doesn't occur," said Lt. Alan Kerstein, commanding officer of the Harbor detective division. "But I'm sure everybody deserves some credit for it. Crime goes down when officers are doing a good job and they're visible, and when a community is cooperating with the police department."
But the story was far different in other South Bureau divisions, where a record murder tally is occurring despite a decline in the citywide homicide rate. A complex set of economic, sociological and law enforcement factors have led to the bureau's rise in homicides, according to police, community activists and experts.
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If it were a city, the South Bureau would rank among the 10 deadliest in the nation. The 57-square-mile area includes four police divisions stretching from the Santa Monica Freeway to San Pedro and from Watts to Windsor Hills. Nearly 70% of its homicides have occurred in two South-Central precincts--the 77th Street and Southeast divisions.
[b][u]"It's like a war zone down here. People are dyinaid Father David Herrera of the Church of the Nativity, four of whose parishioners have been shot to death this year. They included a 15-year-old boy caught in the cross-fire of two rival gangs, and a father who confronted a man who had shot his dog. The church, at 57th Street and Vermont Avenue, is in the 77th Division, where 155 homicides were reported as of Friday.
As of Nov. 30, the latest citywide figures available, Los Angeles had logged 982 homicides--down from 1,009 during the same span last year. There were a record 1,095 murders citywide in 1992.
Experts and community leaders say that in most of the South Bureau, poverty, unemployment and lack of recreational activities have led residents to resort to desperate acts. Some of the violence also stems from racial tensions between African American gang members and Latino immigrants in housing projects, police said.
In the Southeast and 77th divisions, the neighborhoods had a median annual income level of $15,904, compared with $33,167 for Los Angeles County, the 1990 U.S. Census found.
"As the economy goes, so goes the crime rate," said James H. Johnson, director of the UCLA Center for the Study of Urban Poverty. "I think the real issue in the South Bureau is in the area of Los Angeles that had already been economically devastated before the recent economic downturn."
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Added Helen Coleman, leader of the 71st Street-Victoria Avenue Block Club: "If you drive around here, you can see that young people have nothing to do. There's few parks and hardly any recreational activities."
Zeledon and others also blame the killings on a proliferation of high-powered weapons and a breakdown in societal values, saying that people are more willing to resolve disputes with deadly violence.
"It's gotten so that people just don't care anymore," said South-Central resident Carlita Harris as she watched detectives search for evidence Tuesday at a double slaying at 97th and San Pedro streets.
In that incident, a man and his wife were shot to death in their apartment in what police said may have been a drug-related robbery. No arrests have been made.
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Most dangerous divisions in South Central
77th street division
Population: 175,522
Homicides: 155
The thread is the most dangerous cities in the 90s not the 80s and does not include counties. Los Angeles county includes LA plus 87 other cities. So all that is irrelevant to the point of the thread. But just to give you an idea of how much more dangerous Chicago was than both New York and LA, Chicago by itself had more people shot in 1991 and 1992 than LA county and New York COMBINED. When determining what city is the most dangerous, you factor in all shootings and killings.
Shot+killed(shootings, stabbings, beatings, etc.)
Chicago-15,674
Los Angeles-9,583
*note the number for Los Angeles is actually less than 9,692. I used LA county shooting statistics but not murders.
Not to mention the worst areas in Chicago were more dangerous than the worst areas in LA. That's even true up until today. In 2016, portions of Chicago's west side experienced more homicides with less population than the most dangerous police divisions in South Central for 1993. Mind you, 1993 is when South Central hit its peak in violence.
Most dangerous divisions in South Central
77th street division
Population: 175,522
Homicides: 155
LOS ANGELES GANG ATTEMPTS TO TAKE OVER CHICAGO STREETS By Clark Staten, ENN Editor Chicago,Il. (ENN)– Chicago gang crime specialists are reporting that members of the “Crips” street gang, from the Los angeles area, are attempting to take control of at least one neighborhood here. Police insiders say that several recent raids have revealed a “new and different type of criminal element” on Chicago’s West side. A recent arest of a burglar, on Chicago’s West side, resulted in his revealing to police the location of a cache’ of automatic weapons and military fragmentation grenades. Also confiscated was a quantity of liquid PCP (Angel Dust/Animal tranquilizer). Reportedly, the weapons and drugs belonged to a member of the Los Angeles based “Crips” street gang. A Chicago Police intelligence officer, who asked to remain anonymous, reported that an increase in the quality and quantity of “rock cocaine” or “crack” can be attributed to an “invasion from the West Coast”. Chicago Police had previously reported that there was very little “crack” available for sale in Chicago. “Street people” in certain West side neighborhoods have confided that “there are bloods from out of town” who have attempted to intimidate and control given areas where drugs are sold. Several recent outbursts of violence and “drive-by” shooting have reportedly been perpetrated by unknown “gang types”, who are not associated with any known Chicago gang. One friendly neighborhood resident told this reporter, “them brothers is from LA-LA land…you know… out West”. “They’s bad boys…that group…they kill you soon as look at you”, he concluded. A recent raid called “Operation Hammerlock”, which was carried out against members of the Chicago “Vice Lords” street gang resulted in the arest of more than sixty (60) youths and adults and confiscation of numerous cars, houses, and weapons. This raid resulted in the further fragmentation of traditional control of neighborhood “retail drug sales”. At least one Chicago intelligence analyst has hypothesized that the decline of certain Chicago gangs has lead to the a void that is being filled by Los Angeles based gangs. He points out that many Chicago street gangs were frequently a “loosely affiliated relationship of convenience and self defense” and that they were under no centralized authority. “The Crips are another matter entirely…they are ruthless and will stop at nothing to conduct their business”, he offered. “We can expect the level of violence to increase even further…if `the Crips’ continue their effort to control Chicago’s market in drugs and weapons”, the wary expert added. “If I lived in Iowa City, or Boise, or Kansas City, I would also be extremely worried …the gangs will be there soon”, he concluded. (c) EmergencyNet News Service, 1991, All rights Reserved. Emergency Response & Research Institute -
So it looks like in Chicago worst year ever,The L.A Crips came to town and supplied drugs & automatic weapons.
Guess the Crips we're the reason behind half of those shootings !!
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