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Old 10-29-2009, 10:48 PM
 
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Absolutely agree. Freeways are ugly behemoths of sprawl and congestion. Not something to brag about.
Freeways are engines of growth in smaller cities...we're talking about cities without rail transit, so freeways are all that much more important there.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Greater PDX
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Freeways allow me to get in my car and go where I need to go, rather than pack into massively subsidized sardine cans fully of smelly people that take twice as long to get to my destination.

I think Albuquerque is now a bit too large to fit in this category, but I remember being blown away with the spacious lanes and ease of getting around the first time I was there back around 1993 or so.
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Old 10-31-2009, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Dayton, OH/Portland, OR
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Freeways allow me to get in my car and go where I need to go, rather than pack into massively subsidized sardine cans fully of smelly people that take twice as long to get to my destination.

I think Albuquerque is now a bit too large to fit in this category, but I remember being blown away with the spacious lanes and ease of getting around the first time I was there back around 1993 or so.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Yah, I too personally prefer getting into my own truck, getting on a large paved roadway with no stoplights (call it freeway/interstate/expressway/turnpike, I don't care) and going where I need to go when I want to go there.

BUT - I also commend metro areas who have good public transportation systems. There are a lot of people who either need or prefer to take the subway/lightrail/train/bus/whathaveyou. That's great for the environment and also great for me because that's less traffic I need to deal with. Was that sentence totally hypocritical - yup, probably so. But it's the truth.

I was in the Newark, NJ area recently and was really impressed with the highway system there. Yah, there is a TON of traffic - but it MOVES. At least it moved when I was there sharing the roadways with it. I like how they have freeways within freeways - like an "express" freeway on the inside that has way less onramps/offramps that the outside freeway. That way, the "through traffic" doesn't have to deal with as much traffic merging on and off. I had never seen that before and was very impressed with how well it seemed to work.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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well we don't have them in my metro. We have INTERSTATES. I-64, I-264, I-464, I-564.
  • Western Freeway (VA Route 164)
  • MLK Freeway (US Route 58)
  • Chesapeake Expressway (VA Route 168)*

all meet FHWA's definition of a "freeway"

*"Freeway" does not mean toll-free.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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  • Western Freeway (VA Route 164)
  • MLK Freeway (US Route 58)
  • Chesapeake Expressway (VA Route 168)*

all meet FHWA's definition of a "freeway"

*"Freeway" does not mean toll-free.
I remember a while back people got into a debate about the differences between freeways and expressways. Someone stayed freeways are called freeways because they're FREE! lol
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Center City Philadelphia
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Shreveport, LA
Beaumont, TX
Jackson, MS
Harrisburg, PA
I'm probably the only person (well, one of a few anyway) from this area that holds this opinion: Harrisburg's highway system is too extravagant. The leaders in this area have been content building more and more roads while very little expansion of public transportation has taken place. There is a plan for commuter rail, and we have high-speed Amtrak service to Lancaster and then Philadelphia. Slowly but surely the mind set is changing around here.
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Center City Philadelphia
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Freeways are engines of growth in smaller cities...we're talking about cities without rail transit, so freeways are all that much more important there.
No, highways just displace resources into a less sustainable manner. Even for small cities/towns.
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:04 PM
 
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No, highways just displace resources into a less sustainable manner. Even for small cities/towns.
What do you suggest as a replacement for freeways? Public transit is just not a real option in most smaller, less dense cities...and people want to be able to get where they're going. Sustainable through infinity? Maybe not, but they are the current solution.
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Old 12-30-2010, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Near L.A.
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Charleston, West Virginia.

Try it on I-64 or I-77 sometime. Pretty cool system for a city of 51,000 and a metro of only 200,000 people total.
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Old 12-30-2010, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Shreveport, LA
Beaumont, TX

Jackson, MS
Harrisburg, PA
Most definitely.
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