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Yes really. The city of SF is larger than Atlanta and the Bay Area CSA is smaller in land area than the Atlanta MSA. The Bay CSA is at about 7.8 million now.
Actually the San Francesco CSA is 8,757 sq. mi.
And the Atlanta MSA is 8,376 sq mi so the highlighted red is incorrect
CSA is Not MSA
CSA low Commuting
MSA High commuting.
Don't compare a CSA to a MSA because they have different commuting rates.
Actually the San Francesco CSA is 8,757 sq. mi.
And the Atlanta MSA is 8,376 sq mi so the highlighted red is incorrect
CSA is Not MSA
CSA low Commuting
MSA High commuting. Don't compare a CSA to a MSA because they have different commuting rates.
To me this is another example where census designations are crap - purely based on where people commute for work - yet SJ and SF are intertwined culturally and from a living perspective. having spent much time in the Bay area how they seperate the two boggles my mind - they are completedly integrated from a living perspective - maybe not a commuter one
And the whole Bay area feels much more crowded and larger to me - though Atlanta feels very large as well
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To me this is another example where census designations are crap - purely based on where people commute for work - yet SJ and SF are intertwined culturally and from a living perspective. having spent much time in the Bay area how they seperate the two boggles my mind - they are completedly integrated from a living perspective - maybe not a commuter one
And the whole Bay area feels much more crowded and larger to me - though Atlanta feels very large as well
I feel you on that one. The three principal cities Oakland, San Francisco, and San Jose all have similar cultural ties.
I like how the small cities in the Bay Area like Palo Alto, and Mountain View are famous nationwide, every city in the Bay Area is making a name for itself.
I like the scenery, the schools, the architecture and it feels great. I can see why my cousin loves living there so much.
Yes really. The city of SF is larger than Atlanta and the Bay Area CSA is smaller in land area than the Atlanta MSA. The Bay CSA is at about 7.8 million now.
I'm not sure what kind of math you're using, but according to my calculations the SF CSA is larger than the Atlanta CSA by about 400 square miles...not a large margin, but still a margin.
The SF CSA is at 7.4 million...the Atlanta CSA is at 5.8 million. SF is a larger metro area than Atlanta, but not a MUCH larger one - that was the point I was trying to make, so no need to get defensive and/or post misinformation.
Actually the San Francesco CSA is 8,757 sq. mi.
And the Atlanta MSA is 8,376 sq mi so the highlighted red is incorrect
CSA is Not MSA
CSA low Commuting
MSA High commuting.
Don't compare a CSA to a MSA because they have different commuting rates.
Okay, I see you already corrected this. It's funny, people love to use CSA when it conveniently fits their arguments...otherwise, it's not a realistic number.
Okay, I see you already corrected this. It's funny, people love to use CSA when it conveniently fits their arguments...otherwise, it's not a realistic number.
I know kid said the census is crap because of what he or she felt how culturally the bay area is connected... ok it still has the commuting ties of a CSA and not a MSA. Yeah the US census is the boogie monster that doesn’t like the northeast and some of the west coast cities, and favor sunbelt cities. LMAO
I like how the small cities in the Bay Area like Palo Alto, and Mountain View are famous nationwide, every city in the Bay Area is making a name for itself.
Isn't that simply the media giving attention to these small cities? I guess I haven't been paying a lot of attention, because I certainly couldn't name very many small cities in the SF Bay Area (of course Palo Alto and Berkely because of the high-profile universities...and Russian River because I've been there); conversely, not many people on the west coast could name very many small cities in the Atlanta area either. Familiarity is all relative.
I'm not sure what kind of math you're using, but according to my calculations the SF CSA is larger than the Atlanta CSA by about 400 square miles...not a large margin, but still a margin.
The SF CSA is at 7.4 million...the Atlanta CSA is at 5.8 million. SF is a larger metro area than Atlanta, but not a MUCH larger one - that was the point I was trying to make, so no need to get defensive and/or post misinformation.
Rechecked my math and I stand corrected. I forgot to add San Benito County to the Bay Area CSA (1,389 sq miles, pop 53,000). As far as being defensive, I was just trying to point out that the Bay Area has more people in a measured area than Atlanta. That is not debatable. Who knows why the census decided to split the BA like they did, but apparently it is large enough to include an MSA with a city of 800,000 people (S.F.) and another MSA of a city with 1 million people (S.J.)
According to the CA dept of finance latest estimates, the 11 county SF CSA has a population of approx 7.8 million. These state estimates are more in line with actual figures than US census estimates.
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Rechecked my math and I stand corrected. I forgot to add San Benito County to the Bay Area CSA (1,389 sq miles, pop 53,000). As far as being defensive, I was just trying to point out that the Bay Area has more people in a measured area than Atlanta. That is not debatable. Who knows why the census decided to split the BA like they did, but apparently it is large enough to include an MSA with a city of 800,000 people (S.F.) and another MSA of a city with 1 million people (S.J.)
According to the CA dept of finance latest estimates, the 11 county SF CSA has a population of approx 7.8 million. These state estimates are more in line with actual figures than US census estimates.
Well, I'm sure I could come up with someone's estimate for Atlanta that is higher than the Census Bureau, but is that really necessary just to try and prove my point? Nope...it's probably just better to stick with the standard rather than some other entity.
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It's funny, people love to use CSA when it conveniently fits their arguments...otherwise, it's not a realistic number.
