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Old 11-12-2012, 10:29 PM
 
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I wouldn't say they torched us repeatedly. Lee is really good.

To say they torched us means they outran and shook us off. That didn't happen. It was because Lee is that good. But they lost
Lee's good.

But in big boy football, big boys dominate the line and make Matt Barkley run for his life. Oregon didn't do that.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:48 PM
 
Location: GIlbert, AZ
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Lee's good.

But in big boy football, big boys dominate the line and make Matt Barkley run for his life. Oregon didn't do that.
who plays this "big boy football" and do you believe they outscore Oregon? If they don't outscore Oregon...the big boys still lose the game. Well thats how we do math in the Pac 12 Anyway.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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It's not that defense wins championships; it's that defense can neutralize a good offense, and when that happens, the tables turn, and the next question that needs to be asked is, can that explosively offensive team stop the other guys? Balance wins championships.

I like Oregon. I for one would be entertained to watch them play in a BCS title game. But to count on them winning at this point is a bit premature, given the track records of teams that have time to prepare for the unusually fast pace of play. The way Oregon and A&M play is exhausting and it catches teams off-guard in between regular season games, but give teams weeks to prepare for it in practice...and Oregon's what, 1-3 in those kinds of games against non-conference opponents? And they barely beat Wisconsin from the "Big" conference...which isn't exactly big anymore.
I can agree with this. Balance wins championships but defense tends to travel better than offense.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:16 PM
 
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who plays this "big boy football" and do you believe they outscore Oregon? If they don't outscore Oregon...the big boys still lose the game. Well thats how we do math in the Pac 12 Anyway.
The trick isn't to try and outscore Oregon, don't fall into their game and try to keep pace. You'll lose everytime. The key to beating a team like Oregon is ball control. If they don't have the ball they can't score. Long, time consuming drives that wear down their defense and make their offense sit on the bench is the key to victory.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:39 PM
 
Location: GIlbert, AZ
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The trick isn't to try and outscore Oregon, don't fall into their game and try to keep pace. You'll lose everytime. The key to beating a team like Oregon is ball control. If they don't have the ball they can't score. Long, time consuming drives that wear down their defense and make their offense sit on the bench is the key to victory.
Its not that simple. If it were, Oregon would be 0-10. Ive never seen a team like Oregon before, the only team that plays even close is 2010 Oregon. This team is THAT team on Turbo mode. Best chance for a defeat for Oregon is coming up this week in Eugene against Stanford. They are very banged up on defence..and maybe a little on offense.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:43 PM
 
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Its not that simple. If it were, Oregon would be 0-10. Ive never seen a team like Oregon before, the only team that plays even close is 2010 Oregon. This team is THAT team on Turbo mode. Best chance for a defeat for Oregon is coming up this week in Eugene against Stanford. They are very banged up on defence..and maybe a little on offense.
We're witnessing the beginnings of an entirely new style/level of football that will be impossible to match because there are way to many components that came perfectly into place. This is Chip Kelly's design though. It could get better with more physicality along with speed but the thing about this team is it's a championship "team" and you'll see that in just four days. You're going to witness the best college football to ever be played - without a top ranked defense. It's gonna be a good night in Eugene.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:47 PM
 
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Its not that simple. If it were, Oregon would be 0-10. Ive never seen a team like Oregon before, the only team that plays even close is 2010 Oregon. This team is THAT team on Turbo mode. Best chance for a defeat for Oregon is coming up this week in Eugene against Stanford. They are very banged up on defence..and maybe a little on offense.
Of course executing a great game plan against a good team is never "simple." It's always a struggle. But I disagree that Oregon if 0-10 if every team Oregon played executed the right game plan against them. Tennessee Tech and the other cupcakes you guys played wouldn't have the athletes or talent to compete. The one good team you played is USC but they are not a team built to execute that game plan.

Also I see the same self assurance from the Duck fans that I saw from the 'Bama fans. Remember the "best chance for defeate" for the Tide came at Baton Rouge. Well they barely made it through that game and we all remember what happened the next week. Point is anybody could lose on any given Saturday.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:48 PM
 
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We're witnessing the beginnings of an entirely new style/level of football that will be impossible to match because there are way to many components that came perfectly into place. This is Chip Kelly's design though. It could get better with more physicality along with speed but the thing about this team is it's a championship "team" and you'll see that in just four days. You're going to witness the best college football to ever be played - without a top ranked defense. It's gonna be a good night in Eugene.
You might want to actually win the crystal ball before you say stuff like this.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC
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Total Defense Rankings

Oregon #46
- Ark St #59
- Frenso St #26
- Tennessee Tech (FCS)
- Arizona #116
- Wash St #84
- Wash #40
- Az St #29
- Colorado #118
- USC #58
- Cal #87

At least this upcoming weekend they will finally play a team with a good defense.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:32 PM
 
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Total Defense Rankings

Oregon #46
- Ark St #59
- Frenso St #26
- Tennessee Tech (FCS)
- Arizona #116
- Wash St #84
- Wash #40
- Az St #29
- Colorado #118
- USC #58
- Cal #87

At least this upcoming weekend they will finally play a team with a good defense.
Oregon should win this game, but there's some cause for concern, too. Stanford's definitely the most physical team that they've played all year. Now having said that, Oregon has been able to outrun and outpace the Cardinal the past two years, and they've got an added dimension with Mariota, but Oregon may have to be a little more patient and a little more flexible against Stanford. The other question in my mind is this new QB for Stanford. How can he play? Will he choke or can he light up Oregon's secondary? I think as long as Oregon keeps Stanford under, say, 24 points, they'll probably win this game, but if Stanford has a big game in the air...who knows? Like I've said, stopping Oregon's probably not possible, but a team has a chance if they can slow them down and make them work for points, and then score consistently on offense. Scoring doesn't necessarily have to come in big plays; they could do it by eating up the clock and spreading 4 TDs and maybe a field goal over the course of the game.
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