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Old 06-12-2013, 06:19 AM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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Also, knowing where/what a college is doesn't make it academically prestigious.

I know tons of schools because I follow college basketball. So, I have heard of just about every DI school.

A lot of people know Duke for basketball but have no idea that it's a good school.
When my son was accepted at Cornell and Penn, my aunt was disappointed he had not applied to Notre Dame, since she considered ND much more prestigious. She had no idea that Penn was an Ivy League school.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:29 AM
 
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Those that say school quality does not at all tend to not have gone to a quality school.
Your statement just triggered a thought. People send a lot of money on a "prestigious" cars, clothes, vacation, etc. All of those are a depreciating assets. But a prestigious degree will pay economic dividends by opening doors and long after you finish college.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:55 AM
 
Location: NY/LA
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The have an MD program in conjunction with Harvard Medical School.

MD Program | Harvard-MIT Health Sciences and Technology
Yup, and that's a Harvard medical degree. Also, if the poster was talking about MIT pre-med, then they should really take a look at their exmissions. Lots of students going on to Harvard, Stanford, etc. med school.

Like you, I thought it was ridiculous that the poster would claim that ANY degree from MIT wouldn't open doors, but I thought I'd just point out the silliest part of the post, which implied that you could earn an MIT MD.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:59 AM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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My son is at a school like that. Nobody has EVER heard of Case Western Reserve University.
Nobody... EVER!?!?

It is very well known, at least here in the Northeast.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:50 PM
 
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Nobody... EVER!?!?

It is very well known, at least here in the Northeast.
Nobody in FL. I agree that it is well known in the NE and Midwest. I still don't think it is considered as prestigious by the general public as it is by academics.
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:29 AM
 
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Nobody in FL. I agree that it is well known in the NE and Midwest. I still don't think it is considered as prestigious by the general public as it is by academics.
There is no doubt you have to be a smart to get into Case Western. How selective a university is as well as the price tag people are willing to pay gives people that shock-and-awe prestigious label. If the alumni kick butt, that will also help their prestige. Just look at the college endowment to see of the alumni are doing. Case Western has deep pockets so they are doing something right.

Harvard has a 6% acceptance rate. Yet Cornell has a 16% acceptance rate. So Harvard is more prestigious.

But acceptance rates IMHO help make the "prestigious" camp more than any other variable. After all, more people want them than they are willing to let in. Stare at this list Top 100 - Lowest Acceptance Rates | Rankings | US News to see the lowest acceptance rate colleges.

Most of these schools raise some eyebrows (especially the top 50). Nearly all of them are prestigious and they are very well known by your next door neighbor. The Service Academies don't have tuition and small tradition endowments (they have something called "Association of Graduates" non-profits which have deep pockets). My DS is at one of these listed Service Academies. Eyebrows raise all of the time when people ask where he goes to college. At the same token, I bet over 50% of the people don't realize that West Point or the Navel Academy is a college let alone USAFA.

I have never heard of is Cooper Union and it is in the top 25. I probably should have.....
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:37 AM
 
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There is no doubt you have to be a smart to get into Case Western. How selective a university is as well as the price tag people are willing to pay gives people that shock-and-awe prestigious label. If the alumni kick butt, that will also help their prestige. Just look at the college endowment to see of the alumni are doing. Case Western has deep pockets so they are doing something right.

Harvard has a 6% acceptance rate. Yet Cornell has a 16% acceptance rate. So Harvard is more prestigious.

But acceptance rates IMHO help make the "prestigious" camp more than any other variable. After all, more people want them than they are willing to let in. Stare at this list Top 100 - Lowest Acceptance Rates | Rankings | US News to see the lowest acceptance rate colleges.

Most of these schools raise some eyebrows (especially the top 50). Nearly all of them are prestigious and they are very well known by your next door neighbor. The Service Academies don't have tuition and small tradition endowments (they have something called "Association of Graduates" non-profits which have deep pockets). My DS is at one of these listed Service Academies. Eyebrows raise all of the time when people ask where he goes to college. At the same token, I bet over 50% of the people don't realize that West Point or the Navel Academy is a college let alone USAFA.

I have never heard of is Cooper Union and it is in the top 25. I probably should have.....
I am well aware of the service academies. My son was accepted at USNA but he got sick and had his appointment rescinded as a result of his illness. Luckily, he had good options at civilian schools.
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:50 AM
 
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I am well aware of the service academies. My son was accepted at USNA but he got sick and had his appointment rescinded as a result of his illness. Luckily, he had good options at civilian schools.
It's surprising how many talented kids get turned down because of illness, last minute broken bones, etc let alone medically disqualified. My son was medically disqualified but he was invited to try and get a medical waiver. It was a massive PITA. I suspect most of those that get turned back have some great options. Congrats to your son for bouncing back.
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:04 AM
 
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It's surprising how many talented kids get turned down because of illness, last minute broken bones, etc let alone medically disqualified. My son was medically disqualified but he was invited to try and get a medical waiver. It was a massive PITA. I suspect most of those that get turned back have some great options. Congrats to your son for bouncing back.
Well my son did try to get a medical waiver but it was not granted. The doctors felt that not enough time had passed after his illness. They told him that if a year had passed they would have felt better about admitting him and they encouraged him to apply again. However, after a year at CWRU he has almost half of a degree (AP credits) and he does not want to start over at USNA.
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:17 AM
 
Location: NY/LA
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I have never heard of is Cooper Union and it is in the top 25. I probably should have.....
That acceptance rate will probably jump up after next year. Up until this year, all accepted students received full-tuition scholarships. Starting with next year's incoming class, students will pay up to 50% tuition. It's kind of tragic, but a sign of the times.
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