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Old 09-10-2013, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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There's plenty of discussions about which public universities are the best, the ranking. but how about looking at at the states and their aggregate groupings of public institutions. How would you rank the states or, short of ranking them, which states do you think have the best public university system(s)?

Obviously California will be on top or close to it on anybody's list, especially on the strength of all those UC's. How about other states? Do states like Virginia (UVa & W&M), Michigan (U-M, MSU), Indiana (IU, Purdue),and Texas (UT, A&M) get high marks for having two really strong public institutions? Does Ohio receive high marks for having some non-flagship universities (like Miami and Ohio) with stellar reputations?

What states do you think are really do the job right?
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Old 09-10-2013, 08:04 PM
 
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1. California, without a doubt in my opinion.

In no order, some other top candidates:

Michigan
Virginia
Texas
New York (SUNYs are pretty strong)
Ohio (biased a bit here)
Florida
Iowa (yes, you read that correctly with U of I and ISU)
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Every state's situation is so different, I think comparisons are impossible. That said, I'm shocked at Florida being on the list. In the other thread about "leading public universities", only one Florida school, New College of FL, received any mention, and it is not a university but a liberal arts school.

Pennsylvania has an extensive system of state universities.

Colorado, for its size (population, not geographic size) has a good collection of state universities.
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Old 09-10-2013, 11:01 PM
 
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New York (SUNYs are pretty strong)
Funny how City University of New York (CUNY) gets unjustly ignored considering the accomplishments of both staff and the alumni of City, Queens, Brooklyn Colleges, and the John Jay School.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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1. California, without a doubt in my opinion.

In no order, some other top candidates:

Michigan
Virginia
Texas
New York (SUNYs are pretty strong)
Ohio (biased a bit here)
Florida
Iowa (yes, you read that correctly with U of I and ISU)
astute observation on Iowa. Absolutely. You'd be hard pressed to find a rural state (with no major metro areas) that can compete with Iowa in the quality of its public universities. Iowa & ISU are just as you described. Of course, I suppose my "with no major metro areas" is a bit debatable; Chicagoland is clearly a major metro area that is a huge part of UIowa and makes it tick, even if it's technically out-of-state.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:48 AM
 
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Funny how City University of New York (CUNY) gets unjustly ignored considering the accomplishments of both staff and the alumni of City, Queens, Brooklyn Colleges, and the John Jay School.
is CUNY now part of the state system or is it still controlled by NYC? As far as SUNY: great system that has but one major flaw: the absence of a true flagship institution, a high profile university.
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:27 AM
 
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Every state's situation is so different, I think comparisons are impossible. That said, I'm shocked at Florida being on the list. In the other thread about "leading public universities", only one Florida school, New College of FL, received any mention, and it is not a university but a liberal arts school.

Pennsylvania has an extensive system of state universities.

Colorado, for its size (population, not geographic size) has a good collection of state universities.
from my understanding florida has some really good programs for funding in-state university educations...lots of good scholarships for good students attending FL public universities. that could have something to do with it

Miami (oh) and Ohio have "stellar reputations"???
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Old 09-11-2013, 12:22 PM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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1. California, without a doubt in my opinion.

In no order, some other top candidates:

Michigan
Virginia
Texas
New York (SUNYs are pretty strong)
Ohio (biased a bit here)
Florida
Iowa (yes, you read that correctly with U of I and ISU)
Only if they get a grip on that funding debacle.
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:01 PM
 
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There's plenty of discussions about which public universities are the best, the ranking. but how about looking at at the states and their aggregate groupings of public institutions. How would you rank the states or, short of ranking them, which states do you think have the best public university system(s)?

Obviously California will be on top or close to it on anybody's list, especially on the strength of all those UC's. How about other states? Do states like Virginia (UVa & W&M), Michigan (U-M, MSU), Indiana (IU, Purdue),and Texas (UT, A&M) get high marks for having two really strong public institutions? Does Ohio receive high marks for having some non-flagship universities (like Miami and Ohio) with stellar reputations?

What states do you think are really do the job right?
I think New York or California. New York doesn't have a flagship state university, but it does have a lot of good quality collges/universities. I'd rather have a half dozen or more really good, affordable schools to choose from than have one or two great schools and a bunch of not so great schools.
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:04 PM
 
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Funny how City University of New York (CUNY) gets unjustly ignored considering the accomplishments of both staff and the alumni of City, Queens, Brooklyn Colleges, and the John Jay School.
I'm from NY and have gone to a SUNY, but I have to admit that I have never quite understood what a CUNY is.
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