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Old 05-08-2014, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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More than 4 in 5 college seniors don't have jobs lined up

More than 4 in 5 students graduating from college in the next few weeks do not have jobs lined up, and those majoring in supposedly hot fields such as engineering and technology are having no better luck.

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The thus-far fruitless searches have stirred doubt among students about the benefits of college.

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A study this year by the Pew Research Center found that millennials with college diplomas earned an average $17,500 more in 2012 than their peers with only a high-school education.


Suggestion... companies are looking for high-skilled labor (preferably non-union) - electricians, plumbers, welders... Instead of going into huge debt right away, you could learn that skill, make a bunch of money right away, and then do college in a few years without incurring a boatload of debt.

Only problem is that it's hard work - and apparently most young adults avoid hard work. All I know is, people can make money doing tasks that the majority of people will not do.
Do you actually know any young people? Are you the parent of a young person?
My son is a trucker AND he owns his own small business.
He puts in 12 hour days and works every single day of the week.
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Old 05-08-2014, 08:14 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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This thread came to us from the Politics & Other Controversies forum. It was determined that this subject better fit in the Education forum. Discuss away.
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Old 05-08-2014, 08:41 PM
 
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Son will be receiving his computer engineering degree in six weeks, will see what happens when he starts the job hunt...
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:00 AM
 
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What investment a liberal arts degree? Most college kids have bs majors that wouldnt get a job in a roaring economy.
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Old 05-09-2014, 05:13 AM
 
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So....they are talking about kids, in April or March, that don't have jobs lined up yet after graduation.....just how many of those kid have actually started looking for a job yet??? Now that colleges are finishing up and many kids are graduating, ALL of the college seniors I know personally have jobs or are going on to Law/Med school. Maybe they should do the poll when kids are actually LOOKING for jobs??? Even back when I was in college, most kids I knew took at least a month off after they graduated, maybe they traveled but mostly they just decompressed. Then they started looking for a job.
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Old 05-10-2014, 01:41 PM
 
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I know 2 Princeton grads with no jobs lined up. Economy hasn't fully recovered.
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Old 05-10-2014, 01:55 PM
 
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It usually costs an absurd amount of money to go to trade school and many places won't look at you without the experience and/or training. I don't necessarily disagree that people should look to the trades, but going into the trades in order to pay for college is quite foolish. It's better to just work your way through school and get your parents to pay for what you can't.
That's why for-profit, trade schools should be avoided. Community; junior; and public, technical colleges usually offer trade programs at an affordable price. The dedicated vo-tech schools often charge as much for a 2-year degree as one would spend on a 4-year degree at a public university. Another option would be to find an apprenticeship. It seems like these are easier to find in areas with strong unions.
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Old 05-10-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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So....they are talking about kids, in April or March, that don't have jobs lined up yet after graduation.....just how many of those kid have actually started looking for a job yet??? Now that colleges are finishing up and many kids are graduating, ALL of the college seniors I know personally have jobs or are going on to Law/Med school. Maybe they should do the poll when kids are actually LOOKING for jobs??? Even back when I was in college, most kids I knew took at least a month off after they graduated, maybe they traveled but mostly they just decompressed. Then they started looking for a job.
Exactly! What with finals and all the end of year activity, a lot of students simply haven't had time to look for a job, except perhaps at the job fairs held on campus. Kind of hard to go out of town for an interview when one has a final! All the college students I know who've graduated recently have had jobs within a few months of graduation. The fact that 4 in 5 do not have jobs lined up by a certain date is hardly indicative of laziness, or that they will NEVER work in their field.
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:29 PM
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Exactly! What with finals and all the end of year activity, a lot of students simply haven't had time to look for a job, except perhaps at the job fairs held on campus. Kind of hard to go out of town for an interview when one has a final! All the college students I know who've graduated recently have had jobs within a few months of graduation. The fact that 4 in 5 do not have jobs lined up by a certain date is hardly indicative of laziness, or that they will NEVER work in their field.
It's certainly indicative that they're not being terrible proactive about finding a job.

It must be nice to not even start seriously looking until graduation.

I had a job lined up in November when I was finishing up undergrad, and a job landed in January when I was finishing up grad school. I can't imagine the sort of irresponsible mind that thinks its okay to go all the way to the end without bothering to find a way to pay the bills.
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Old 05-11-2014, 02:26 PM
 
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More than 4 in 5 college seniors don't have jobs lined up

More than 4 in 5 students graduating from college in the next few weeks do not have jobs lined up, and those majoring in supposedly hot fields such as engineering and technology are having no better luck.

...
The thus-far fruitless searches have stirred doubt among students about the benefits of college.

...
A study this year by the Pew Research Center found that millennials with college diplomas earned an average $17,500 more in 2012 than their peers with only a high-school education.


Suggestion... companies are looking for high-skilled labor (preferably non-union) - electricians, plumbers, welders... Instead of going into huge debt right away, you could learn that skill, make a bunch of money right away, and then do college in a few years without incurring a boatload of debt.

Only problem is that it's hard work - and apparently most young adults avoid hard work. All I know is, people can make money doing tasks that the majority of people will not do.
I don't buy into the idea that a student goes to college just to get ONE JOB. I just don't. It may take young adults a while to get settled into good jobs but their degree will benefit them FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE.
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