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Just so everybody knows, and since we're giving merit to wikipedia here, the tier system is a bunch of arbitrary, bogus b.s. that the U.S. News Colleges and Rankings so and so, or whatever its called concocted to judge schools, and then marketed to as many suckers as they could, so that anyone needing a label to validate their university, would have one.. There is nothing "official" about the tier system, and its rankings are mostly based on endowments. Technically tiers are only a marketing ploy that is not actually recognized as an accurate gauge of university standings.
Well, it's bigger than Harvard, too. I'm not sure I get your point. BTW, according to USNews, it had 21,604 full time students, and 10,523 part time in 2005. So 1/3 of their students are part-time.
Wo wo, when did Harvard come into the mix?
We were comparing UC secondary campuses to USF and UCF.
And when does full-time or part-time students ratio matter when we are talking about selectivity? If anything, it would indicate that full-time students have probably higher stats on average.
Regardless, that was in 2005. A lot, I mean a LOT, has changed since then. Admission in one BCS conference (which UC-Davis, Irivine and Santa Barbara can only drea of). All freshmen at USF are now required to live on campus fo instance. And admission stats have gone way up since then.
Just so everybody knows, and since we're giving merit to wikipedia here, the tier system is a bunch of arbitrary, bogus b.s. that the U.S. News Colleges and Rankings so and so, or whatever its called concocted to judge schools, and then marketed to as many suckers as they could, so that anyone needing a label to validate their university, would have one.. There is nothing "official" about the tier system, and its rankings are mostly based on endowments. Technically tiers are only a marketing ploy that is not actually recognized as an accurate gauge of university standings.
Too bad technically the recruiters base their hiring decisions on the rankings.
I know a lot of people who went to top tier institutions who work for top companies. What's your point?
Good students don't always go to the best school they get into- maybe they get a scholarship at their local state school that makes it seem like a better option. They will still work hard in school and do well, regardless of what institution they attend. It doesn't mean they'll have the best resources available or be challenged in the way they would at a higher tier school, but the cream will always rise to the top.
I'd love to see some stats for the PERCENTAGE of successful students from top tiers versus third tiers. If a school is big enough, you're bound to have at least a few good graduates. My school had 98% of their pre-med bound students get into one of their top three choices for med school- no tier 3 school can boast that.
We were comparing UC secondary campuses to USF and UCF.
And when does full-time or part-time students ratio matter when we are talking about selectivity? If anything, it would indicate that full-time students have probably higher stats on average.
Regardless, that was in 2005. A lot, I mean a LOT, has changed since then. Admission in one BCS conference (which UC-Davis, Irivine and Santa Barbara can only drea of). All freshmen at USF are now required to live on campus fo instance. And admission stats have gone way up since then.
I brouoght Harvard in to make a point that the size of the school is pointless in this discussion.
I used 2005 b/c that's the US News catalog that I have. I can't get into all the 2009 data on the web, but here's what I could find.
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