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Nope. It costs too much, you know most everything you need to know by grade 10, and the older people in management don't really care about all that fandanged stuff that you'll learn in college.
Although I'd say if you are bent on going, consider engineering.
Nope. It costs too much, you know most everything you need to know by grade 10, and the older people in management don't really care about all that fandanged stuff that you'll learn in college.
Although I'd say if you are bent on going, consider engineering.
As an engineer myself, I'd say study something else unless you really, really enjoy cube life, meetings, org charts, death-by-powerpoint and insufferable, mind-numbing bureaucracy.
Law school is for people with high IQ and shrewd mentalities.
I worked as a legal secretary for the past few years, and believe me, some of the attorneys I worked around were really unimpressive in the smarts department. All they had to do was show up at court appointments and then write form letters to update their insurance clients. They were not really experts in anything, except kissing insurance company ass. They are the worst at managing their own firms. They hired the HR lady not because of previous HR experience (she didn't have any), but because her boss owed our firm's big cheese a favor, then she turned around and hired her hairdresser to be our office manager. HR bimbo and her hairdresser judged the staff's qualities solely on the basis of whether or not you kissed their asses, so it was just like being in a junior high cafeteria, all the time, like a bad dream. I have a Master's degree, but they didn't care, because they never went to college. Typical.
I believe you. There are too many dysfunctional people in the workforce.
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I worked as a legal secretary for the past few years, and believe me, some of the attorneys I worked around were really unimpressive in the smarts department. All they had to do was show up at court appointments and then write form letters to update their insurance clients. They were not really experts in anything, except kissing insurance company ass. They are the worst at managing their own firms. They hired the HR lady not because of previous HR experience (she didn't have any), but because her boss owed our firm's big cheese a favor, then she turned around and hired her hairdresser to be our office manager. HR bimbo and her hairdresser judged the staff's qualities solely on the basis of whether or not you kissed their asses, so it was just like being in a junior high cafeteria, all the time, like a bad dream. I have a Master's degree, but they didn't care, because they never went to college. Typical.
Even the brightest kid would be at a strong disadvantage by limiting his education to "book and experiments" that he can perform on his own.
What you say is very true. It's also true that no really major scientific breakthroughs have been made in a very long time - for all of the money we are throwing at research and education. They all seem to be discoveries with "great promise" but are actually too expensive to have any practical application. And a lot of R&D seems to just be tweaking of scientific work that was done in people's basements centuries ago. Life expectancy in America is actually beginning to decline.
However, it is true that those books that I can read on my own, were written by people who went through the college treadmill. That said, their college educations probably had value decades ago, producing these books that a non college grad can read and perhaps apply.
I would advise today's college age students to go to a 2 year school first and then take it from there. Dip a toe in; don't take this plunge that everyone says you "should" take to get ahead. Oh, and as for the masters degree holders who don't make as much as a tradesman - well, that's their problem. And yes, I have seen masters students snotting about that they somehow "deserve" more money than an electrician. No, maybe it's just possible you got duped into going to graduate school for no good reason.
What you say is very true. It's also true that no really major scientific breakthroughs have been made in a very long time - for all of the money we are throwing at research and education.
Research today is more expensive than it was back in the day. A chemist 100 years ago wouldn't know what to in a modern day lab. I don't know what you think a real break through would be. With the human genome being mapped, cloning and our growing knowledge of genetics, science is still quite exciting.
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They all seem to be discoveries with "great promise" but are actually too expensive to have any practical application. And a lot of R&D seems to just be tweaking of scientific work that was done in people's basements centuries ago. Life expectancy in America is actually beginning to decline.
I would love to see some examples of this. Do you have a specific basement lab in mind? And lets be clear about life expectancy. In the US, at least, our society drinks, smokes, eats fast food and the populace are becoming porkers. The only reason people aren't dropping off in their 50's these days is due to modern medicine.
I would advise today's college age students to go to a 2 year school first and then take it from there. Dip a toe in; don't take this plunge that everyone says you "should" take to get ahead.
That is very sound advice, and I would recommend it, too, but....the problem to this approach is that if you do decide to go ahead with the full four-year degree, you will be behind people your age who took the plunge immediately.
You will never make the same pay as other people your age because you will have gotten a later start.
Basically, all a degree does is grant you admission to work for some big company where the majority of people will never use one bit of their education while at work. Fortune 1000 or whatever they are companies insist upon hiring college educated people, if for no other reason than when they give tours, they can point to cubes full of them with pride.
If you are not the corporate ladder climber type, working for a Fortune 1000 company as a cube dweller can be a very bleak existence.
Total BS. Modern medicine probably kills more people in a year than it saves.
Think about all of our seniors (and not so seniors) on blood pressure meds, cholesterol meds, diabetes meds, heart medications, etc. These people are having their lives extended. That's just how it is. There are cancers that can be treated. Heck, I have a brother that lives without a colon. My grandmother is 91 years old. She's had 3 heart attacks. There is no way she would be alive without modern medicine. This could not have been possible 100 years ago. But, generally people do not take care of themselves. A lack of preventative care is probably one of the biggest reasons our society is in health trouble.
Any way, all side effects resulting in death combined do not equate the extended years given to millions. Don't get me wrong, I'm attracted to natural remedies and the like, but I keep the CT stuff in check.
You call those breakthroughs? How does ice on mars matter to any of us?
The person who cured AIDS in Germany had to practically destroy his patient and put him in danger before the bone marrow transplant could work. The other "breakthroughs" were meaningless or of only some significance.
The fact that the research market is inundated with money yet provides little results too late is a major problem.
Research today is more expensive than it was back in the day. A chemist 100 years ago wouldn't know what to in a modern day lab. I don't know what you think a real break through would be. With the human genome being mapped, cloning and our growing knowledge of genetics, science is still quite exciting.
I would love to see some examples of this. Do you have a specific basement lab in mind? And lets be clear about life expectancy. In the US, at least, our society drinks, smokes, eats fast food and the populace are becoming porkers. The only reason people aren't dropping off in their 50's these days is due to modern medicine.
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