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Old 04-10-2010, 07:36 PM
 
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someone said that to me the other day. i told him he's full of it.

look at the numbers. 28 percent of americans have a bachelors degree +

a bachelors will still get it done if you arnt wasting your time with a worthless degree like womens studies.

this is what im thinking down the road, next 20 years job wise.

think doing something global, say a global studies, a international relations type program where you pick up a language and pair it with some math or business is going to be valuable.

engineering, computer sciences will remain valuable.

dont waste time with crap like art studies, media studies.

people assume just because they get a bachelors they should have employers waiting for them, not true.
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Old 04-10-2010, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Just look at some of the jobs that ask for a bachelors. I've seen postings for being a receptionist or secretary that require a degree. How many schools do you know that offer a BS in Reception Science?
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Old 04-10-2010, 11:05 PM
 
Location: southern california
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dear friend
look at the employment stats.
the professions are being eaten away.
college is no longer the path to disneyland.
think VE think trade,
think jr college and debt free education.
my favorite pick
RN
if you do LVN 42 units and then crossover program to RN of 30 units you dodge
a mountain of useless prerequisites.
also military is fast track to RN.
(and full officer)
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Old 04-10-2010, 11:10 PM
 
Location: USA
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engineering, computer sciences will remain valuable.

dont waste time with crap like art studies, media studies.

people assume just because they get a bachelors they should have employers waiting for them, not true.
If you achieve a masters or PHD in computer science and create something, yes it is valuable. Most of these computer jobs will be outsourced. There is no point of having a more expensive American programmer, network engineer, network administrator anymore with cloud computing. Sure you'll have a few contracted companies out there, but that's it.

Engineering and physical sciences will always have room in every country.

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Just look at some of the jobs that ask for a bachelors. I've seen postings for being a receptionist or secretary that require a degree. How many schools do you know that offer a BS in Reception Science?
I think that is hilarious schools call everything a "science"
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Old 04-10-2010, 11:34 PM
 
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LVN and RN are also being "eaten away". Plus you need to have an excellent understanding of biology, math, and science technicalities to do well in nursing school.

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dear friend
look at the employment stats.
the professions are being eaten away.
college is no longer the path to disneyland.
think VE think trade,
think jr college and debt free education.
my favorite pick
RN
if you do LVN 42 units and then crossover program to RN of 30 units you dodge
a mountain of useless prerequisites.
also military is fast track to RN.
(and full officer)
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Old 04-10-2010, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Hawaii
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dear friend
look at the employment stats.
the professions are being eaten away.
college is no longer the path to disneyland.
think VE think trade,
think jr college and debt free education.
my favorite pick
RN
if you do LVN 42 units and then crossover program to RN of 30 units you dodge
a mountain of useless prerequisites.
also military is fast track to RN.
(and full officer)
I will chime in to say it is not a mountain of "useless prerequisites."

I like to deal with an R.N. who hasn't dodged education.

But to answer the OP; no it's not IMO. As you can see with everyone fast tracking and reducing course work down to as little as possible I believe the people with degrees do better overall but employers feel if they have one that it's enough which puts an extra heavy burden on the person with the higher degree (speaking from personal experience).
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Old 04-11-2010, 04:52 AM
 
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That number is skewed because of the number of people over 50 or so that don't have a BA. Try finding numbers for people under 50 and I would be that it is significantly higher. Regardless of what other people have these days, the vast majority of employers won't even look at you if you don't have a post-secondary degree of some kind.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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A degree does not guarantee you long range success, but it gets you the interview that the high school grad can't get.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:23 AM
 
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That number is skewed because of the number of people over 50 or so that don't have a BA. Try finding numbers for people under 50 and I would be that it is significantly higher. Regardless of what other people have these days, the vast majority of employers won't even look at you if you don't have a post-secondary degree of some kind.
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Old 04-11-2010, 09:18 AM
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Well-run, highly profitable employers choose employees with skills for which they are willing to pay

Desirable employees acquire skills relevant to employers with high-income jobs; won't work for crappy employers; and will start own business if feel they are being underpaid

Why should any employer waste shareholders' money overpaying some unskilled/lazy worker when work can be automated or outsourced/offshored?

Capitalism and competition includes two-way dynamics between employer and employee and employer and customers: no one is forced to work for anyone or buy any crappy company's stuff
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