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Old 04-19-2018, 09:30 PM
 
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Controlled burn on Fort Carson on a Red Flag Warning day

Pathetic...Fort Carson does a "controlled burn" on a red flag day when the 117 fire is still burning. Are they just stupid?
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Old 04-20-2018, 03:19 AM
 
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Controlled burn on Fort Carson on a Red Flag Warning day

Pathetic...Fort Carson does a "controlled burn" on a red flag day when the 117 fire is still burning. Are they just stupid?
Perhaps those weeds are preventing them from fulfilling their mission of training the troops.

After they burn all the weeds and there's nothing left to burn they can fire at will.
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Old 04-20-2018, 07:12 AM
 
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I am very frustrated with Fort Carson right now over the fire issue. I live close to Fort Carson and there have been so many fires caused by their activities this season - not all of them make the news. People's homes have already been lost by fire started on the base. Our area is also still dealing with the contaminated water issue with another branch of the military at the same time.
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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That's interesting....I wonder why....can't sparks be carried by wind and ignite dry mulch or grass elsewhere?

Do controlled burns prevent that?

At least it looks like it might rain soon!
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Old 04-20-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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IMO, it was a training exercise that got away from them and they quickly put it out, so they called it a controlled burn.

Yes, controlled burns are designed to remove fuels from fire fronts to stop its advance. They can be very effective against grass fires. Bulldozing swaths of ground have the same effect. In forest fires the same principle applies but is harder to manage as fire can migrate in tree tops and jump clear cut/control burn fire lines.
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Old 04-20-2018, 04:11 PM
 
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IMO, it was a training exercise that got away from them and they quickly put it out, so they called it a controlled burn.

Yes, controlled burns are designed to remove fuels from fire fronts to stop its advance. They can be very effective against grass fires. Bulldozing swaths of ground have the same effect. In forest fires the same principle applies but is harder to manage as fire can migrate in tree tops and jump clear cut/control burn fire lines.
I have no problem with controlled burns. But you shouldn't be doing one on a red flag day. Honestly, whoever made that decision is retard. Do you remember the terrible forest fires they had at Yellowstone National Park quite a few years ago? That began with a controlled burn that was done on day no controlled burn should have been attempted. When I think of some idiot in the military picking a red flag day to do a controlled burn, I think that I wouldn't trust that dip---- on any battlefield.
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Old 04-20-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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I have no problem with controlled burns. But you shouldn't be doing one on a red flag day. Honestly, whoever made that decision is retard. Do you remember the terrible forest fires they had at Yellowstone National Park quite a few years ago? That began with a controlled burn that was done on day no controlled burn should have been attempted. When I think of some idiot in the military picking a red flag day to do a controlled burn, I think that I wouldn't trust that dip---- on any battlefield.
I agree, and that is why I also had thought about TCHP's theory that it was as a result of a training exercise that they knew they shouldn't be doing and hence they chose to lie and say it was a controlled burn. There is ample evidence they know better but are just doing what they want anyway.
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:32 AM
 
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I agree, and that is why I also had thought about TCHP's theory that it was as a result of a training exercise that they knew they shouldn't be doing and hence they chose to lie and say it was a controlled burn. There is ample evidence they know better but are just doing what they want anyway.
Hard to deter training schedules too much when you’re readying for deployment. Especially when practically any kind of training, simulated or live fire, carries with it a fire risk.
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:41 AM
 
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Hard to deter training schedules too much when you’re readying for deployment. Especially when practically any kind of training, simulated or live fire, carries with it a fire risk.
I do understand that but honestly if you burn down what you're supposedly working to protect it rather defeats the purpose. They need to get creative in finding a solution.
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Old 04-21-2018, 11:54 AM
 
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Hard to deter training schedules too much when you’re readying for deployment. Especially when practically any kind of training, simulated or live fire, carries with it a fire risk.
Stop and think about what you're saying. If it was a training schedule, then they're lying about the cause of the fire. If it was a controlled burn it was stupidity. Neither scenario gives me much confidence in the military.
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