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Old 06-28-2012, 10:02 PM
 
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Microsoft claims it took the controversial decision to remove the Start button from the traditional Windows desktop because people had stopped using it.

The lack of a Start button on the Windows 8 desktop has been one of the most divisive elements of the new user interface. It had been widely assumed that Microsoft removed the Start button to force people to familiarise themselves with the new Metro Start screen, which is the centrepiece of the Windows 8 overhaul. However, speaking to PC Pro at TechEd in Amsterdam, a senior Microsoft executive told us that the old Start menu had already fallen out of favour with users of Windows 7.

Why Microsoft killed the Windows Start button | News | PC Pro
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:04 PM
 
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"Microsoft claims it took the controversial decision to remove the Start button from the traditional Windows desktop because people had stopped using it. "


whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:08 PM
 
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When I first read the article my mouth dropped to the floor.

I have a minimalist Win 7 desktop and have no problem clicking on:



Kudos to the OP, while looking for a pic of the button I stumbled across this ditty:

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/window...anger-released

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Old 06-28-2012, 11:01 PM
 
Location: SCW, AZ
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Their reason is worse and stupider than their action. How could they even know if people are using it or not? What a BS!
That is MS for you, they d.ck around and change the features they shouldn't and ignore the crap they need to change or get rid of and then they wonder why there are so many pirated version of Windows out there. Do a good job and make your OS a lot more customizable in a smart way and people may actually feel the cost is just.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:06 PM
 
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Their reason is worse and stupider than their action. How could they even know if people are using it or not? What a BS!
That is MS for you, they d.ck around and change the features they shouldn't and ignore the crap they need to change or get rid of and then they wonder why there are so many pirated version of Windows out there. Do a good job and make your OS a lot more customizable in a smart way and people may actually feel the cost is just.
Its all part of the dumbening.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:16 PM
 
Location: SCW, AZ
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dumbening? LOL....that is awesome!
I realized it was not a real word but it sounded OK for a few seconds.
Well, heck I guess you were right about the dumbening theory!
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:24 PM
 
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Their reason is worse and stupider than their action. How could they even know if people are using it or not? What a BS!
That is MS for you, they d.ck around and change the features they shouldn't and ignore the crap they need to change or get rid of and then they wonder why there are so many pirated version of Windows out there. Do a good job and make your OS a lot more customizable in a smart way and people may actually feel the cost is just.
While I don't agree with Microsoft in removing the start button, it's very possible for them to determine how their OS is being used and whether people are using the start button or not. The methods involved in this are college 101.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Their reason is worse and stupider than their action. How could they even know if people are using it or not? What a BS!
SQM - Software Quality Metrics have been integrated into Windows since XP, Vista and Win 7 it's ubiquitous within the OS and explicit opt out. While no PII is passed to the MS Servers, usage patterns certainly are along with other diagnostic and performance information. Search your hard drive for files with a .sqm extension they're an xml based protocol and probably meaningless to a human (although not exclusively) ultimately they're squirted back to a server at MS through BITS. You can disable the service, however if you do that then your data (and others who turn off that aspect of Windows) lose your votes on how the software will develop, since your data will not be in the overall dataset, and thus any actions that MS takes from analysis of that dataset may not be in your best interests. At the end of the day, if you do disable the service, you have no right to complain subsequently, as you did opt to not send usage patterns back to MS to assist in the design and development of the next versions.

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That is MS for you, they d.ck around and change the features they shouldn't and ignore the crap they need to change or get rid of and then they wonder why there are so many pirated version of Windows out there. Do a good job and make your OS a lot more customizable in a smart way and people may actually feel the cost is just.
What you consider important and what the vast majority of users feel are important for the OS may be at complete opposite ends of the spectrum. The average Windows user is not particularly tech savvy, so continuity and consistency is more important than customization. While this may raise a flag about Win8, Win8 does have a continuity and consistency of interface, just not the same interface as Win7 (if you opt to use the Metro interface). Considering that many Windows users have difficulty with basic windows configuration, giving them customization no matter how smart is like giving a loaded gun to a baboon.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:34 AM
 
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What you consider important and what the vast majority of users feel are important for the OS may be at complete opposite ends of the spectrum. The average Windows user is not particularly tech savvy, so continuity and consistency is more important than customization. While this may raise a flag about Win8, Win8 does have a continuity and consistency of interface, just not the same interface as Win7 (if you opt to use the Metro interface). Considering that many Windows users have difficulty with basic windows configuration, giving them customization no matter how smart is like giving a loaded gun to a baboon.
In other words, because most people are incapable of operating anything more complicated than a toaster, everything should be dumbed down to the level of a toaster. Thus, the dumbening.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:34 AM
 
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Nonsense! I've been using the Start button every day since I started using computers in the mid 1990s!
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