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You don't need all the info with video, when you view a video what you are seeing is an illusion. The human brain does not process all the information seen by the eye, it could never do it. It will process some of it and fill in the blanks. You are tricking the brain into thinking it's viewing a fluid scene, the information not seen by the eye is created by your brain.
The eye is easy to trick , sound not so much.
That was my point.
The OP should also look up the actual resolution of DVDs (especially) and even BluRay.
FWIW, I was 'let behind the curtain' by a senior ranking technical person at the pre-eminent streaming service and I can assure you their product is far superior DVD.
NB: if you're seeing jittering, like actually as if your eyes are blinking like the OP said, you may want to check your set's refresh rate setting.
Interesting thread, although I think we're starting to split hairs when it comes to video processing. For me, it's simple. I like HD (Blu-ray quality) the best. I can deal with SD. VHS looks OK on tube TVs, but they look horrible on HD TVs. When it comes to being able to watch a TV show or a game, I don't get very many opportunities to watch my favorite TV shows on the big screen. So, video quality, for me, has to be adequate, but it doesn't have to be perfect.
I'm a bit more of an audiophile however, I can listen to streamed music in the office, because it's background music for me anyway. But, when it comes to listening at home, I need it to be the best quality as possible. I like for it to be great quality in the car, although I recognize that your car isn't exactly a concert hall. Still, I can tell if the MP3 is of low quality, because it will sound like crap in my car. My CDs tend to sound better than what's on my iPOD.
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The difference you are all hearing between vinyl and CD is 90% the mastering of. Dynamically compress and brickwall limit the digital version(going to CD or download), and of course the vinyl record will sound 'better' - in comparison.
My suggestion: Scout out original-release CD of classic rock artists you listen to - pre-loudness war stuff - and I guarantee you'll be closer to the original sound than something that's just been cranked up, peak-limited, and had "Remastered 24bit" or some such jive printed on the cover.
This brings up another facet of streaming: What master are the streaming houses using for what they send out? At least with your own CDs, YOU control, to some extent, the sound quality of what goes on your device.
^ And how did vinyl sound "better"? (ignoring the pops, clicks and such )
I already owned Tesla's "Mechanical Resonance" on CD and was absolutely in love with it. One of those albums where you LOVE every single track. Being their debut album (and wanting to try this test) I bought the album brand new. So it was pop and click free.
The best way to describe it was: fuller, having more depth.
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I already owned Tesla's "Mechanical Resonance" on CD and was absolutely in love with it. One of those albums where you LOVE every single track. Being their debut album (and wanting to try this test) I bought the album brand new. So it was pop and click free.
The best way to describe it was: fuller, having more depth.
Analog(whether LP, cassette or reel tape) does that. It has a curve to it that digital audio does not. Analog is not flat. It can be made close, but never perfectly. Especially in the deep bass(<80Hz) and high treble(>10kHz) regions of our hearing spectrum. It is that 'roundness' that lends a false sense of fullness to music in analog storage.
Digital, by nature, is ruler flat. If digital's frequency response graph were the edge of a planet, that planet would be bigger than the entire Earthly solar system! So everything is represented exactly as it was transferred to digital, whether DDD, ADD, or AAD. And its dynamic range(amplitude) is limited only by its bit depth. As one pushes the signal 'hotter' in digital recording, it does not bend, or compress slightly, as laying to analog tape does. Beyond full-scale, however, it does something really nasty: it clips!
The differences you hear in digital could also have, especially on CDs from the early 1990s or before, to do with the state of A/D converters at that time. Less than ideal quantization algorithms, etc, could result in more errors, leading to the 'harshness' or coldness some people feel when listening to music in digital format.
Being perfectly flat response-wise, digital cannot, by itself, account for how we hear: Our ears are not equally sensitive from 20Hz to 20kHz. Knowledge of the equal-loudness(Fletcher Munson) phenomenon can guide mixing and mastering engineers to compensate for that mismatch between our hearing and a perfectly flat musical storage and reproduction system.
Any 'differences' you hear between a vinyl or tape and a digital release of something, beyond all of the above, are the result of decisions made and processes applied(spatial, EQ, dynamics) to the audio at the mastering stage.
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FWIW, I was 'let behind the curtain' by a senior ranking technical person at the pre-eminent streaming service and I can assure you their product is far superior DVD.
The point that I made earlier is that it can be better and is most cases will be, there is no set limitations on the quality of streaming audio/video. The limitations are set by the service provider, your own connection speed and to some degree your computer/device.
I already owned Tesla's "Mechanical Resonance" on CD and was absolutely in love with it. One of those albums where you LOVE every single track. Being their debut album (and wanting to try this test) I bought the album brand new. So it was pop and click free.
The best way to describe it was: fuller, having more depth.
Yep that is one those rare albums you just listen to whole thing and love every minute of it. If you like that try Five man acoustical jam if you never heard it.
My suggestion: Scout out original-release CD of classic rock artists you listen to - pre-loudness war stuff - and I guarantee you'll be closer to the original sound than something that's just been cranked up, peak-limited, and had "Remastered 24bit" or some such jive printed on the cover.
Here is an example of what he is talking about. It's YouTube which means the comparison audio has been stepped on but it will drive the point across... They are using two CD's here, one was original CD from the 80's, the other is newer version.
I stream everything but, I still have my dvd's and cd's. We have charter spectrum and they seem to have an outage once a week. No cable/internet=boredom. Anyway, what will you do for entertainment if the internet goes down for more than a few days?
Well, I heard somewhere some people actually read books.
Well, I heard somewhere some people actually read books.
“What’s that?”
"It’s a book.”
"What’s that, then?”
"A non-volatile storage medium. It’s very rare, you should have one.”
― Max Headroom:
Max Headroom is an American satirical science fiction television series that aired in the United States on ABC from March 1987 to May 1988. The series is set in a futuristic dystopia ruled by an oligarchy of television networks. Off switches are illegal on televisions.
Despite having only 14 episodes it is remember fondly by old geeks.
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