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Professional sports needs to crack down on this sort of conduct.
This is just the thing... the entire NFL has just degrading into a collection of tattooed thugs and criminals taken from the gutter and given a $10M contract because they are muscular and can catch a football. It seems like every other day, it's another guy involved in drugs, or some shooting, or some fight, etc. etc. And the NFL had to be dragged, kicking and screaming, to finally rightfully ostracize a grown man who sees fit to act like some sort of an ape and knock his wife unconscious. There is hardly anything respectable about the people in the NFL these days.
Professional sports needs to crack down on this sort of conduct.
No one is innocent here. Granted, her hitting him is completely inappropriate and him hitting her so hard that she's knocked down is even worse. However, neither of them should be putting their hands on the other.
If you get to the point where you need to physically put your hands on someone in the heat of the moment during an argument, that's a clear sign that you need to step away and step out of that relationship. If it turns (physically) violent then, it will always turn violent from that point forward.
No one is innocent here. Granted, her hitting him is completely inappropriate and him hitting her so hard that she's knocked down is even worse. However, neither of them should be putting their hands on the other.
If you get to the point where you need to physically put your hands on someone in the heat of the moment during an argument, that's a clear sign that you need to step away and step out of that relationship. If it turns (physically) violent then, it will always turn violent from that point forward.
It just isn't worth it.
Just to be clear, there is absolutely no equivalency between the two.
He weighs twice as much as she does. He is a professional athlete with strength and dexterity honed by many years of specialized workouts. The kinetic energy behind his punches is many times greater than hers.
It's like comparing person A hitting person B with a rolled-up newspaper, and person B responding by hitting person A with a baseball bat. One is a deadly weapon and one isn't. His fists are deadly weapons. Her fists are not.
Just to be clear, there is absolutely no equivalency between the two.
He weighs twice as much as she does. He is a professional athlete with strength and dexterity honed by many years of specialized workouts. The kinetic energy behind his punches is many times greater than hers.
It's like comparing person A hitting person B with a rolled-up newspaper, and person B responding by hitting person A with a baseball bat. One is a deadly weapon and one isn't. His fists are deadly weapons. Her fists are not.
I never said there was.
I'm not sure what the point of all of that above speech is...
You're not saying anything that neither I, nor anyone else on this board, already doesnt know. Just to be clear...
No one is innocent here. Granted, her hitting him is completely inappropriate and him hitting her so hard that she's knocked down is even worse.
Did she hit him or swat at him? Others who watched the "slo-mo" version are claiming that he spit on her not 1x but 2x and she's swatting in defense. I can't tell. Not sure. I did get the sense that this was not the first time this has happened.
I fully support whatever punishment the courts and the NFL see fit to mete out to Ray Rice for his criminal behavior. Domestic violence is a problem nationwide and the NFL, being our most popular sport in the U.S., would do well to take a leadership role in addressing it. For example, did you know that the most domestic abuse complaints registered in a single day traditionally occurs on Super Bowl Sunday?
That said, I'd like to bring up another aspect of this case that everyone seems to be ignoring. That would be the role that TMZ has played in this national drama. First of all, HOW did they get this tape? I think it's a given that they paid for it, but who got the money? Was it sold by the casino? A casino employee who obtained it illicitly? Some law enforcement personnel? Somebody pocketed some major cash for this tape being made available and they should be unmasked.
I am under the impression that this case was adjudicated in the courts without the tape being shown, even though the snippet of tape showing Rice dragging his fiancee out of the elevator was available widely at that time. Also, the NFL commissioner claims that he assigned his widely criticized two-game suspension to Rice without having seen it either. He says he relied on personal interviews with Rice and Ms. Palmer, who has since then married Rice. He believed that the fact that Ms. Palmer claimed a role in the incident, that the two are in professional counseling, as well as a program with their minister, were all reasons that mitigated stronger punishment. Yet now that pubic outcry, stimulated by TMZ, has risen to a fever pitch again, the commissioner is violating his own policy that was intended to fix a violation of public opinion.
But my question today is WHY did TMZ choose TODAY to release the entire elevator tape, which one would assume they were in possession of the entire time? Could it be because this just happens to be the day after the NFL Sunday football season started and the week Rice was supposed to be returning to the Ravens? If it's so important that the nation see Ms. Palmer getting clocked with a left hook, why weren't we shown that IMMEDIATELY? It appears to me that this entire tape leaking has been orchestrated to get the most possible publicity FOR TMZ.
There is nothing altruistic about their actions. They're in it for the money. They have the tools not only to inform, but also to lead public opinion, and they are doing just that. But not in any way that is good for anyone but them. Do you think for a minute that their actions have any other purpose than to make money and get attention for their business venture? They are taking a personal domestic tragedy, and a screw-up by a major American corporation, and turning it into a prize for themselves. The public, and even the rest of the media, seem to have no problem with that. Why?
Is that supposed to be OK? Why do I hear no one criticizing TMZ for their role in this mess? Why is no one asking who got paid for this tape being turned over to TMZ, which admits paying for almost all the salacious material they use to construct their wildly popular online business? If this situation was handled improperly, it might well have been handled MORE PROPERLY had this celebrity-worshiping, money-grubbing communications organization not put themselves front and center into the issue. I'd personally appreciate it if someone would investigate THAT, too.
Did she hit him or swat at him? Others who watched the "slo-mo" version are claiming that he spit on her not 1x but 2x and she's swatting in defense. I can't tell. Not sure. I did get the sense that this was not the first time this has happened.
Spitting is the most disgusting thing you can do to someone. It's a sign of extreme disrespect and hate.
He doesn't love her. He only married her, because of this incident.
This woman had no one in her corner. At the press conference he gave, it was reported that her very own father HUGGED him crying, her SISTER was praising him and his now wife was just standing their looking a combo of beaten down/worn and keeping her mouth shut.
I know he's probably built like a tank, but even I probably would have tried to hit him if her spit on me not once, but TWICE out of sheer reflex. The bastard didn't even care to pick her up properly like a man that actually LOVED his woman. He pulled her out like she was some nasty piece of garbage he had to deal with.
What would possess her to MARRY that man? Is the sex really that good? Seriously?
I have no idea how the domestic violence mindset of these women work, because the spitting alone would have been enough for me to hate him for all eternity and would not give a damn about him being the "father" of my kid either.
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